Matrix v1.15
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Matrix v1.15
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Re: Matrix v1.15
#2Every new release or "This week in Matrix" post I check to see if Discord style detailed permissions and voice channels get added and every time I get disappointed. I fear it'll never be added at this point due to the funding issues. I hyped it up to all of my friends who stick to Discord that "One day" it'll compete with Discord and we, and millions of others can all finally be happy. I hope that day will come, but my hope is fading.
Re: Matrix v1.15
#3Every new release or "This week in Matrix" post I check to see if Discord style detailed permissions and voice channels get added and every time I get disappointed. I fear it'll never be added at this point due to the funding issues. I hyped it up to all of my friends who stick to Discord that "One day" it'll compete with Discord and we, and millions of others can all finally be happy. I hope that day will come, but…
I'm running matrix with jitsi for voice. No one is gonna leave discord for it though....not yet in my circles at least.
Re: Matrix v1.15
#4Can't wait until MAS is just part of synapse/dendrite, will be a lot easier to install and maintain than the extra moving parts.
Re: Matrix v1.15
#5Every new release or "This week in Matrix" post I check to see if Discord style detailed permissions and voice channels get added and every time I get disappointed. I fear it'll never be added at this point due to the funding issues. I hyped it up to all of my friends who stick to Discord that "One day" it'll compete with Discord and we, and millions of others can all finally be happy. I hope that day will come, but…
I'm running matrix with jitsi for voice. No one is gonna leave discord for it though....not yet in my circles at least.
if people actually cared about freedom/privacy, Discord wouldn't be a thing, right?
and even harder to leave Discord now when a lot of users invested in Nitro fancy emoticons and profile enchantments
Re: Matrix v1.15
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm running matrix with jitsi for voice. No one is gonna leave discord for it though....not yet in my circles at least.
if people actually cared about freedom/privacy, Discord wouldn't be a thing, right? and even harder to leave Discord now when a lot of users invested in Nitro fancy emoticons and profile enchantments
Even without that, its just a much slicker and more useable system.
I really want to love matrix but at least last time I tried it, the app was very noticeably more clunky and featureless.
Re: Matrix v1.15
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm running matrix with jitsi for voice. No one is gonna leave discord for it though....not yet in my circles at least.
if people actually cared about freedom/privacy, Discord wouldn't be a thing, right? and even harder to leave Discord now when a lot of users invested in Nitro fancy emoticons and profile enchantments
I care for privacy. But there has to be a compromise between privacy and socializing otherwise we would all use letters with encrypted text, no?
Re: Matrix v1.15
#8Every new release or "This week in Matrix" post I check to see if Discord style detailed permissions and voice channels get added and every time I get disappointed. I fear it'll never be added at this point due to the funding issues. I hyped it up to all of my friends who stick to Discord that "One day" it'll compete with Discord and we, and millions of others can all finally be happy. I hope that day will come, but…
What would you say the delta is between Element's current video-rooms and Discord-style voice-rooms (if you go and mute video for everyone), ooi? The only reason Element hasn't implemented precisely the same UI as Discord is because it's not (currently) trying to be a Discord competitor, but more a "run your own encrypted Teams alternative", given that's what Element customers are asking for right now, and we're having to follow the money to try to get sustainable. However, what we're trying to do is to ensure that Discordish features still work, despite having to focus more on Teamsish features.
In terms of permissions: I'm a bit surprised that folks feel limited by Matrix's freeform hierarchy of permissions. Every user can have a 'power level' from 0 to 100, and you can then customise the threshold required for literally permission (e.g. you need power level 54 or higher to kick users, or whatever). The only difference with Discord is that Discord lets you pick entirely arbitrary combinations of permissions (e.g. have one user able to kick but not ban, but another user able to ban but not kick, or whatever). How useful really is this in real life usage though?
I'm trying to work out whether the problem is if Element's UI for configuring permissions is too basic, or whether folks really do need a full RBAC permission matrix, and if so, for what use case?
Re: Matrix v1.15
#9Can't wait until MAS is just part of synapse/dendrite, will be a lot easier to install and maintain than the extra moving parts.
I kinda like the extra moving parts, it makes it easier to scale away from the slow Python parts.
Re: Matrix v1.15
#10None of these things are why I and everyone I know doesn’t use Matrix.