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Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

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Post by akho »

quantadev wrote: post #33
mikesabat wrote: post #12

If you want to make a kids app... Forcing the child to do a number of math problems to continue using the tablet would be an amazing app that I would definitely pay for. My daughter is a second grader. If every 5 minutes of tablet use 'cost' her 5 correct arithmetic answers she would be working at space x right now.

It certainly seems like someone would've invented a Kid Friendly phone by now that's completely safe, and doesn't allow access to the "real" internet at all, but only an ability to send texts without images, make voice calls, etc. Now that we have AI it would be easier, an you could potentially give "Google" access that's censored into a "child friendly" output by the AI. You could have a texting app where friends ca…

“Child friendly output” is not a solution. It is the problem. I trust my 9-yo to avoid porn or violence; I don’t trust him to be able to resist the hours of inane content on YouTube Kids &c. Using AI to facilitate access to more of that, while censoring reality, is the opposite of what’s needed.

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#122

Post by ramblerman »

wraptile wrote: post #118

I genuinely don't get this. Let's say you believe it's an addiction - how is this an acceptable treatment? Would we justify something like this for alcoholics? "Scream you're a loser for another can of beer" I'm not attacking this project and OP per se but if we do believe that social media addiction is a real problem we're approaching it in very immature ways. It's either an easy problem than can be solved with temp…

you talk as if people have never overcome addiction with sheer willpower.

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#124

Post by graemep »

quantadev wrote: post #111
graemep wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on age, individual, usage and circumstances. My kids had phones as teens, and they were useful to some extent. It also depends what they do - social media + doomscrolling is the worst thing. There is Android support for locking things down for kids, but I do not know how effective it is - mine are adults of close to being an adult now. Its also hard to do without. I would have to pay a lot more for my daughte…

I agree with all that. Nowadays kids are so addicted to phones, the phone is like a toy (even like a baby pacifier) that they simply never outgrow even into adulthood. They can't sit at a stoplight without needing a "fix" like a junkie. It's so sad.

I somewhat agree, and it is very harmful, but adults who did not have phones as kids can be just as bad. I have even seen someone posting on social media (with a photo of what was happening) to complain about a child not putting their device down!

It is not just sad, it is harmful. "What is life if full of care, we have no time to stand and stare". It is the opposite of mindfulness.

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#125

Post by wraptile »

ramblerman wrote: post #122
wraptile wrote: post #118

I genuinely don't get this. Let's say you believe it's an addiction - how is this an acceptable treatment? Would we justify something like this for alcoholics? "Scream you're a loser for another can of beer" I'm not attacking this project and OP per se but if we do believe that social media addiction is a real problem we're approaching it in very immature ways. It's either an easy problem than can be solved with temp…

you talk as if people have never overcome addiction with sheer willpower.

Not sure what makes you think that way. I explictly said easy issues can be overcome with temperance (i.e. willpower) and hard issues need strong scientific based solutions. "Scream I'm a loser" is neither.

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#127

Post by dylan604 »

wraptile wrote: post #119
dylan604 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love it when normies come in and criticize addicts for having a lack of impulse control. Maybe we are not willing to use the addiction word, but until we accept people are addicted, we're never going to solve anything.

Except things like this are not treatment but just memes

If you think addiction to using a device is a meme, then we do have problems. Screaming to unlock, yes, is not useful in correcting addictive behavior. That doesn't mean the issue attempting to be addressed is not an actual problem though. Redirecting the conversation back to the actual problem is better than just throwing the baby out with the bath water because this attempt at the problem isn't a real solve

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#128

Post by quantadev »

akho wrote: post #121
quantadev wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It certainly seems like someone would've invented a Kid Friendly phone by now that's completely safe, and doesn't allow access to the "real" internet at all, but only an ability to send texts without images, make voice calls, etc. Now that we have AI it would be easier, an you could potentially give "Google" access that's censored into a "child friendly" output by the AI. You could have a texting app where friends ca…

“Child friendly output” is not a solution. It is the problem . I trust my 9-yo to avoid porn or violence; I don’t trust him to be able to resist the hours of inane content on YouTube Kids &c. Using AI to facilitate access to more of that, while censoring reality, is the opposite of what’s needed.

> I trust my 9-yo

Welp, there's your first mistake.

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#129

Post by quantadev »

graemep wrote: post #124
quantadev wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with all that. Nowadays kids are so addicted to phones, the phone is like a toy (even like a baby pacifier) that they simply never outgrow even into adulthood. They can't sit at a stoplight without needing a "fix" like a junkie. It's so sad.

I somewhat agree, and it is very harmful, but adults who did not have phones as kids can be just as bad. I have even seen someone posting on social media (with a photo of what was happening) to complain about a child not putting their device down! It is not just sad, it is harmful. "What is life if full of care, we have no time to stand and stare". It is the opposite of mindfulness.

I dunno. My formative years were the 1970s, and I don't think anyone my age will have a genuine panic attack if denied access to their pacifier like today's kids (and adults) do.

Re: Show HN: Scream to Unlock – Blocks social media until you scream “I'm a loser”

#130

Post by meansob »

quantadev wrote: post #129
graemep wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I somewhat agree, and it is very harmful, but adults who did not have phones as kids can be just as bad. I have even seen someone posting on social media (with a photo of what was happening) to complain about a child not putting their device down! It is not just sad, it is harmful. "What is life if full of care, we have no time to stand and stare". It is the opposite of mindfulness.

I dunno. My formative years were the 1970s, and I don't think anyone my age will have a genuine panic attack if denied access to their pacifier like today's kids (and adults) do.

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