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Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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Heh. Get born into the right family and off to Harvard you go.

Does his application make him out to be unworthy? I'm having a difficult time reading bits.

He would barely qualify for a state directional school with those grades at that time. Had he not been the son of Joe Kennedy, his school counselors almost certainly would have tried to steer him towards manual labor.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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In which quarter of the class is he? 3rd What number out of 110 students is he? 85th What honors has he won in literary or scholastic pursuits? None So JFK was basically just George W. Bush. Interesting.

those are his high school grades, not his university grades.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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I'm curious: does anyone know the context of the grades in the application? I saw actual grades listed in three places (pages 3, 17 and 26). He seems to have received scores ranging from 50-85. Are these out of 100? If so, it appears he wasn't a great student. He was ranked 65th out of 110 students (page 17). I'm not questioning his intelligence, he was clearly brilliant. However, I find it interesting that he was an…

I can't speak for Harvard in particular, but back in the '30s, grade inflation hadn't yet taken hold, so it was quite normal for there to be many students with Cs, rather than 90% As like today.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/the-history-of-...

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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I'm curious: does anyone know the context of the grades in the application? I saw actual grades listed in three places (pages 3, 17 and 26). He seems to have received scores ranging from 50-85. Are these out of 100? If so, it appears he wasn't a great student. He was ranked 65th out of 110 students (page 17). I'm not questioning his intelligence, he was clearly brilliant. However, I find it interesting that he was an…

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Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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In which quarter of the class is he? 3rd What number out of 110 students is he? 85th What honors has he won in literary or scholastic pursuits? None So JFK was basically just George W. Bush. Interesting.

Also, he went to Choate, which is the most elite boarding school in the country.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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I'm curious: does anyone know the context of the grades in the application? I saw actual grades listed in three places (pages 3, 17 and 26). He seems to have received scores ranging from 50-85. Are these out of 100? If so, it appears he wasn't a great student. He was ranked 65th out of 110 students (page 17). I'm not questioning his intelligence, he was clearly brilliant. However, I find it interesting that he was an…

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Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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In which quarter of the class is he? 3rd What number out of 110 students is he? 85th What honors has he won in literary or scholastic pursuits? None So JFK was basically just George W. Bush. Interesting.

There are other abilities that are not measured by tests, such as the ability to get on with people, humility, courage, willingness to learn from mistakes, insight, etc.

According to Robert McNamara, JFK's ability to empathise with the Russians' position was very important in resolving the cuban missile crisis. As was his courage in facing down the military who wanted to attack cuba.

Presumably he had also learnt from his mistake in authorising the Bay of Pigs invasion, a project he inherited on coming to office.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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In which quarter of the class is he? 3rd What number out of 110 students is he? 85th What honors has he won in literary or scholastic pursuits? None So JFK was basically just George W. Bush. Interesting.

Also, he went to Choate, which is the most elite boarding school in the country.

Not sure the causality here, and I can't verify the citation on wikipedia, but from 1918-1928 2/3 of Choate graduates went to Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. Presumably by 1935 things were much the same. The number I would be much more interested in seeing in the context of this is what percentage of Harvard applicants were accepted.

That said, Harvard, 1935 was far different from Harvard 2010: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/books/review/06brooks.html

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