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Post by samiv »

bgro wrote: post #203
wasimanitoba wrote: post #117

Meanwhile, they forced AI Copilot bloat into Notepad, whose singular use-case was supposed to be that it does one thing well without unnecessary features.

Every product has bizarre bloat. I understand things might get heavier over time with new features, but Office from like 20 years ago still works pretty great. In fact, I don’t even really see any new features that are missing in my normal use case. Actually, anything that DOES exist in a newer version is something I actively DO NOT want. For example, monthly/yearly subscriptions, popups that interrupt typing to adve…

Since you mentioned Outlook.. at work we use Outlook 2019 and its exactly like you mention.

The user interface is littered with useless crap, the File menu goes back to this weird completely new different UI layout etc etc.

And the best part is that if the VPN goes temporarily down it fails to send/receive new emails until it has been restarted.

Let me say that again.

It fails at its core functionality if there's a glitch in the network and cannot send or receive emails. That's just a next level of incompetence.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by dogleash »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #225
wasimanitoba wrote: post #117

Meanwhile, they forced AI Copilot bloat into Notepad, whose singular use-case was supposed to be that it does one thing well without unnecessary features.

I took a screenshot and pasted it into the new Win11 Paint. Even minimized, Paint was constantly using 5% CPU and sitting at ~250MB of RAM. I guess I can begrudgingly get over the RAM, but squandering the CPU like that is ridiculous. What happened to pride or quality control or anything?

>What happened to pride or quality control or anything?

Sounds like some dangerous cowboy coding wrongthink you've got going on over there.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

conductr wrote: post #213
simplyinfinity wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good. This might suck for opensource devs, but for normies that might get a random exe link this is good. I've gotten numerous phone calls from relatives when they try to run some unrecognized app, most of the time is benign, but on few occasions it was something malicious.

It's a heavy tax to protect the ignorant. I hear things like this and think how I've been using a computer for nearly 4 decades and it's never once happened to me. Maybe those types of people need to re-evaluate their technology choices (maybe iPad is more appropriate) instead of taxing the entire ecosystem to protect them from themselves.

A popup warning is not a heavy tax.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by cwyers »

conductr wrote: post #213
simplyinfinity wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good. This might suck for opensource devs, but for normies that might get a random exe link this is good. I've gotten numerous phone calls from relatives when they try to run some unrecognized app, most of the time is benign, but on few occasions it was something malicious.

It's a heavy tax to protect the ignorant. I hear things like this and think how I've been using a computer for nearly 4 decades and it's never once happened to me. Maybe those types of people need to re-evaluate their technology choices (maybe iPad is more appropriate) instead of taxing the entire ecosystem to protect them from themselves.

If you count the number of ignorant people who use Windows versus the people like you, you'll quickly realize the tax is very cheap for the level of protection it offers to the number of people it offers it to.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by legends2k »

xyst wrote: post #49

It will take more than nostalgia and rust to tear me away from my neovim setup that has been built up/improved on over the years. Lsp, dap, autocompletion, aliases and bindings for each programming languages. Lazily loaded of course so it’s still snappy. Manage configuration, and external dependencies such as lsps with nix. Then have separate nix shells for each project to load tooling and other dependencies in an is…

Huge +1, same for me, but with GNU Emacs instead of neovim but can completely appreciate the philosophy.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by Arnavion »

masfoobar wrote: post #146

About a month ago I heard Microsoft had their own Linux distribution to help Microsoft Windows users feel more at home. From memory, it was a rather simple GNOME setup. Nothing special. I am surprised Micrsooft didnt use the opportunity to create a micrsoft specific Linux distro that replaces bash with powershell, or Edit with vim, nano and other choices as well as .NET and Visual Studio Code by developer installs. M…

>About a month ago I heard Microsoft had their own Linux distribution to help Microsoft Windows users feel more at home. From memory, it was a rather simple GNOME setup. Nothing special.

You're confusing Microsoft's first-party Linux distro Azure Linux (nee CBL-Mariner) that is intended as a regular MS-supported OS for containers, VMs, servers, etc, with various Windows-like skins for Linux DEs that people have made for years.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by jandrese »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #225
wasimanitoba wrote: post #117

Meanwhile, they forced AI Copilot bloat into Notepad, whose singular use-case was supposed to be that it does one thing well without unnecessary features.

I took a screenshot and pasted it into the new Win11 Paint. Even minimized, Paint was constantly using 5% CPU and sitting at ~250MB of RAM. I guess I can begrudgingly get over the RAM, but squandering the CPU like that is ridiculous. What happened to pride or quality control or anything?

I assume it is basically an Electron app now. Anything will be bloated when it's a full web browser running some webapp.

Re: Microsoft Edit

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Post by not_a_bot_4sho »

fsniper wrote: post #81

Microsoft loves to own general terminology like "edit" for their products. I have no idea how this flys. SqlServer like it's the one that found sql or it's the only product that serves sql.

I know what you mean but everyone does this.

Apple has Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc. Google has Drive, Docs, Sheets, etc. Meta has Messenger. Far too many examples to list.

Conversely, it would be ridiculous to use non-obvious names.

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