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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by account42 »

knorker wrote: post #143
krunck wrote: post #44

This guy was certainly flagged before he got on the plane in Norway. The US has data sharing agreements with lots of countries. His online behaviour was already known. The Trump administration changed the filters for what they're looking for in people's profiles. This guy fit. If you are going to upset the empire with your on and offline behaviour, you better practice solid information hygene.

Then why was his ESTA approved?

Your ESTA approval clearly states that it does not grant you a right to enter the US and that the final decision will only be made at the border. So he was likely flagged but still may have had a chance to enter depending on the outcome of the border interrogation.

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Post by account42 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #17
dyauspitr wrote: post #12

Should I start putting my phone in checked baggage? Is that allowed with the batteries and stuff? I guess I can carry a cheap older smartphone with a burner number for the actual flight.

That wouldn't matter, you get your checked luggage before border control, don't you?

Not in any airport I have been to. Usually it's landing -> immigration (border control) -> baggage claim -> customs (just walk through if you have nothing to declare) -> exit.

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Post by account42 »

mosdl wrote: post #178
dyauspitr wrote: post #12

Should I start putting my phone in checked baggage? Is that allowed with the batteries and stuff? I guess I can carry a cheap older smartphone with a burner number for the actual flight.

Take out the sim and say the phone has no internet connection

They have WIFI.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by account42 »

tensor wrote: post #401
IncreasePosts wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You secure your work permit at a consular office in Canada, you don't try to enter the US on one type of visa with the intent to convert it to a work visa once you're in. That's called preconceived intent and is against the rules.

She was not on a visa. Believe it or not Canadians can travel to the US without a visa. She also had a lawyer who advised going to the border. It was all 100% legal and standard practice.

Trying to enter via the Mexican border after being denied entry at the Canadian border and not first resolving that with the Embassy is very far from standard practice and if her lawyer actually recommended that she should seek a better one.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by account42 »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #468
IncreasePosts wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly once. But, I would need to know what actually happened, as opposed to what a person thinks or reports having happened. To share an anecdote, a person I knew in high school went around telling people that he got tasered for having a broken tail light on his car. Well, he did have a broken tail light, and he was tasered, but when the body cam footage came out, it tells the story of kid getting pulled over, bein…

So what circumstances are needed for you to believe something actually happened, besides several examples of the exact same behavior from the administration ?

One example where you don't find out that yes there was actually more to the story would be a start. This isn't such an example: CPD says he admitted to previously using drugs in the US which is a federal crime.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by account42 »

paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Hopefully they will look into this further than the clickbait headline and find out that no, he was not denied entry for a meme.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by snickerdoodle12 »

legitster wrote: post #381
snickerdoodle12 wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might turn you around, but they're not going to beat you up and strip search you for not having the right papers.

https://www.sivilombudet.no/en/news/prevention-torture/body-... Norway regularly strip searches suspects, to mostly the same level of standard as other European countries and even the US. The grounds they use to determine suspicion might be different, but in both countries a lot of discretion is given to the officers.

> The grounds they use to determine suspicion might be different

That's kind of the whole point, isn't it?

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by School-Cotton »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #513
School-Cotton wrote: post #469

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Alright, then what do you think I should call what used to be called “fascism” ? Since it is really quite a different thing from Soviet Block-style communism (even if both are bad!) and so could use a different word to describe it.

Authoritarianism seems to be the correct word. I agree that the term fascist is wildly over-used, to the point where actual fascist behaviours are getting normalised.

Authoritarian encompasses both Soviet Bloc-style communism as well as what I used to think was called fascism. However the other poster is claiming fascism now means both. So I need another word to describe the specific thing that I used to think was called fascism.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by DudeOpotomus »

platevoltage wrote: post #340
DudeOpotomus wrote: post #324

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Isnt that why you did all that to your body? To get attention from other people? This was just not the kind of attention you thought you'd get... Drawing attention to yourself results in attention. Who knew.

This is the type of comment I would expect from someone who tells women to go out in public in a potato sack to avoid unwanted attention, and if they choose not to, the harassment is their fault.

The dude lambasts the US because he has tattoos on his face and implanted metal in his body and was singled out by security. Security's job is to look for people who are out of the ordinary. Since most security people are not very bright, they're going to go after the shiny lure. But somehow, this becomes about sexualizing women? WT actual F??

People who put tattoos on their face are looking for attention. Attention is exactly what he got.

Obviously the guy has never traveled to Asia. He'd be singled out in every port and every station. Sounds like he lives a tidy life in No Europe. Where bald white guys with face tattoos and body armor are normal and only brown people are singled out in security lines...

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by queenkjuul »

edanm wrote: post #484
stego-tech wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s how it currently is, but now how it has always been or always will be. Never mistake the present for either the past or the future. That’s what I’m getting at, here. Folks are digging into the details of what’s in front of them instead of stepping back and looking at the bigger picture first.

If the bigger picture includes completely changing the entire way the world works, the way countries work, how humans have always organized themselves, etc, then I think it makes sense that people are not looking at it because it is completely unrealistic and irrelevant. "Let's not discuss this specific government policy, because should governments even exist" is not very interesting.

> how humans have always organized themselves

Not even remotely the case

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