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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by snickerdoodle12 »

wffurr wrote: post #219
Someone1234 wrote: post #104

It is worth noting that the US has been doing digital device searches coming up to twenty years now. I had my phone searched back in the early 2000s, and my most recent US Visa required me to list all social media accounts. I've even read (but not experienced) reports of GrayKey or UFED being used to download someone's unlocked phone for offline analysis also. Your choices at the border are either: Unlock your phone…

Disable biometric unlock; you're not required to provide a passcode but you can be required to look at or touch the device. Cross with it turned off. I don't think the threat of a fine or jail time is real. Even if the agents said that, that's not an actual legal penalty they can apply. They can deny entry to someone on a visa, but they can't deny entry to a citizen or legal resident. They can keep your device, thoug…

Your legal rights don't seem to matter all that much when they've decided to ship you off to the gulag in El Salvador.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by airforce1 »

mvdtnz wrote: post #294

USA is a country I have always wanted to visit. No more. I will never set foot in your country simply because I refuse to deal with your border force. There are plenty of other countries out there that won't treat me like a criminal. Have you ever dealt with Japanese border staff? They could hardly be more grateful to welcome you.

...unless you run afoul of any of their many obscure laws, even unintentionally. I had a relative travel to Japan with his family. He's into locksport (watches Lock Picking Lawyer, etc). He had some lock picking paraphernalia on his person that he forgot about since he just carries it around 24/7 without thinking about it. Long story short, they were discovered in a metal detector at some point and Japanese security whisked him away to an interrogation room. He tried to explain locksport and youtube but the Japanese police were incredulous. He spent a full day in Japanese detention (leaving his wife and kids stranded in Tokyo without him) and at one point it was looking like he might be facing more serious charges, but then luckily someone from an American military base was able to bail him out somehow.

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Post by platevoltage »

Bhilai wrote: post #267
spiderice wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reminder: Support of free speech requires support of the right to say things that you loathe by people you hate or you don’t support free speech. No it doesn't. You're putting arbitrary limits to suit your views. You can support free speech for American citizens and also support using a foreigner's speech to determine whether or not we allow them into the country. That's just smart border policy. We should be vetti…

The first amendment of the US constitution grants freedom of speech to all persons. Courts have interpreted that first amendment applies broadly, even to non-citizens.

I find it hard to believe that THIS Supreme Court would re-affirm this decision if it ever came up.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by mvdtnz »

legitster wrote: post #270

This story sounded a little suspicious, or at least incomplete. It never mentioned why he was singled out by the border agent. Also, ICE would probably not have been involved at all. I looked up the article in Norwegian Reddit and someone posted a link to this person's Youtube channel where he shoots guns and (apparently, as I don't speak the language) has made comments about the President. https://www.youtube.com/ch…

It sounds like when an article is possibly incomplete you just invent your own facts to fill in the gaps.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by mcosta »

MadnessASAP wrote: post #79
Rebuff5007 wrote: post #9

I vote for a campaign to make sure every single entrant has this meme on their phone.

You're making a bet that the country with the largest prison system on earth and 5th highest incarceration rate can't arrest all of us. You do you but that's gonna be a no for me.

While the US has the largest prison population, it ranks lower in per capita incarceration rates compared to some other nations. These are El Salvador, Rwanada, Turkmenistan and Cuba.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by docmars »

stego-tech wrote: post #193

All the bickering about the validity of this specific story and the “if you don’t like it don’t ever leave home to go anywhere ever” misses the crux of the issue that these articles are trying to raise: * Do we agree that a law enforcement arm of any country should be allowed to perform warrantless searches of electronic devices? * Do we find it acceptable that persons with critical views are denied entry to countrie…

Agreed, and well said. I think everyone's goal is (hopefully) to move away from as many double-standards around these types of incidents as possible, and level the playing field, in favor of liberty / freedom, assuming there will be a few odd anomalies needing special consideration. On paper, this incident could be one of those due to its nature as a border security issue, and I think it's safe to say that most (even those who support ICE) are viewing this as silly and unnecessary, at least in my circles.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by mvdtnz »

Havoc wrote: post #221

Lots of other countries to explore. I'll revisit this in 4 years by then we'll also know if US democracy is still a thing

I won't be reconsidering in four years. The American people have shown who they are. Like you say, plenty of other countries to visit.
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