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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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spiderice wrote: post #197
harry8 wrote: post #134

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> doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself No. Should have precisely zero baring on anything at all. Reminder: Support of free speech requires support of the right to say things that you loathe by people you hate or you don’t support free speech.

> Reminder: Support of free speech requires support of the right to say things that you loathe by people you hate or you don’t support free speech. No it doesn't. You're putting arbitrary limits to suit your views. You can support free speech for American citizens and also support using a foreigner's speech to determine whether or not we allow them into the country. That's just smart border policy. We should be vetti…

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Post by jjkaczor »

promptdaddy wrote: post #256
stanmancan wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We used to take two annual trips to the US, and cross the border every 4-6 weeks to shop, eat, and fill up our gas on the way home. We haven't been there since this current administration took over, and have no plans on it until something changes. Trumps comments regarding Canada, and the whole "51st state" rhetoric triggered the decision, but these stories absolutely play a part in it. I'm not about to put myself, o…

So sad that one little man can affect your view of an entire place. The tone of this thread really pins Trump as a true King.

So sad that the policies and actions implemented by the current "regime" can affect the views of people that are not living there, or perhaps you just haven't been paying attention to the news since February 2025...

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by huslage »

wffurr wrote: post #219
Someone1234 wrote: post #104

It is worth noting that the US has been doing digital device searches coming up to twenty years now. I had my phone searched back in the early 2000s, and my most recent US Visa required me to list all social media accounts. I've even read (but not experienced) reports of GrayKey or UFED being used to download someone's unlocked phone for offline analysis also. Your choices at the border are either: Unlock your phone…

Disable biometric unlock; you're not required to provide a passcode but you can be required to look at or touch the device. Cross with it turned off. I don't think the threat of a fine or jail time is real. Even if the agents said that, that's not an actual legal penalty they can apply. They can deny entry to someone on a visa, but they can't deny entry to a citizen or legal resident. They can keep your device, thoug…

That is not true for non-citizens. Our law is swiss cheese regarding that.

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Post by guax »

discoutdynamite wrote: post #225

The other picture showed Mads with a wooden pipe which he had made years prior This is really why. Any evidence or suspicion of drug use or paraphenalia is a major offense. Even it they attempted to justify or explain it, its a major rejection criteria. Ive heard of several denials for suspicions of marijuana use, "DUDE WEED" memes and the like. They are really going hard on anything that looks like illicit substance…

Funnily enough weed is more legal in the US than Norway.

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Post by smsm42 »

smsm42 wrote: post #210
pluc wrote: post #31

Hmmm, in what other country is it a punishable offence to make fun of its dear leaders? Thailand? North Korea? Myanmar? Like it or not, these countries are who you are being compared to.

Germany: https://www.foxnews.com/media/germany-started-criminal-inves... France: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230329-french-woman-... Spain: https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/belgian-cou... Poland: https://www.intellinews.com/polish-writer-faces-prison-for-c... United Kingdom: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/13/queen-elizab... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/16/activi…

I omitted Netherlands because while they did actually have lèse-majesté laws on the books, and prosecuted people under it, they abolished it after Trump's first presidency. OK, I am kidding, it had nothing at all to do with Trump, they just abolished it in 2020 without any connection to what happened in the US.

Belgium abolished similar law in 2023. Switzerland allows you to mock local politicians, but not foreign ones based in Switzerland (go figure). Portugal, Iceland, Denmark and Brazil still seem to have such codes, though I am not aware of any recent prosecutions (maybe they exist, I'm just lazy and don't want to make this into a whole M.Sc. thesis in political science).

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Post by snickerdoodle12 »

hermanzegerman wrote: post #126
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on decades of experience with my family: it's only political correctness when other people do it. When they do it, it's just common decency, common sense, family values, etc. And as far as the original story, individual border agents should absolutely not be doing this to people because they have a meme on their phone, doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself. There is straight up no justificati…

What values does the US represent?

Hunting down brown people and shipping them off to concentration camps, based on what's been happening the past few months.

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Post by extr »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #217
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Every generation has its "free-speech advocates" moaning, "you can’t say anything anymore." The current panics: political correctness, cancel culture, jokes under siege, has the usual suspects asking, "What will the free-speech crowd say about this one?" This is a perfect example of Bourdieu's idea of symbolic violence and the violence of the arbitrary. The uncomfortable truth is, for many the thrill isn't in enforci…

AI slop

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Post by kube-system »

smsm42 wrote: post #266
kube-system wrote: post #195

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Interestingly, as an American, literally the only time I've had my luggage poked through by an armed guard was in a social democracy in Europe.

There's some inspection in practically every transport hub when I travel. While I traveled internationally the most strict was in Germany. I really don't mind a lot - there are good reasons to be careful - but they had guards in full military gear and with automatic weapons (usually it's handguns and plain uniforms) which looked pretty intimidating, and that was the only time I had to actually turn on my laptop to sh…

Yeah, of course most places inspect luggage, but here in the US luggage inspection is done mostly by staff who are not police/military.

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Post by stackskipton »

nemomarx wrote: post #243
lenerdenator wrote: post #141

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That's simply not true. Ask people who have tried going to Canada from the US how welcoming border guards can be at their ports of entry. Say the wrong thing or try to cross with the wrong thing (in my friend's case, it was a set of tools used to repair electronics) and they will try to jam you up and deny entry.

I've crossed into Canada multiple times and never had the guards comment on anything, personally? Was this a very recent thing and has there been a change in policy?

Just like US CBP, it depends on who you run into and the mood they are in. 10 years ago, I found cheap flights to Toronto from my city. When I got to Canadian Immigration, they asked, "Where are your guns?" and I said "I guess at home" just because it's a weird question that caught me off guard.

Canadian Border Guards then lectured me about responsible gun ownership, tore about my bags going "Since you don't keep track of your guns, let's find out if they are in your bags", went through my iPad movie content and finally was like "Ok, you are clear".

I've been back multiple times and since then, Scan Passport Check Computer STAMP PASSPORT Welcome to Canada.

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Post by Someone1234 »

wffurr wrote: post #219
Someone1234 wrote: post #104

It is worth noting that the US has been doing digital device searches coming up to twenty years now. I had my phone searched back in the early 2000s, and my most recent US Visa required me to list all social media accounts. I've even read (but not experienced) reports of GrayKey or UFED being used to download someone's unlocked phone for offline analysis also. Your choices at the border are either: Unlock your phone…

Disable biometric unlock; you're not required to provide a passcode but you can be required to look at or touch the device. Cross with it turned off. I don't think the threat of a fine or jail time is real. Even if the agents said that, that's not an actual legal penalty they can apply. They can deny entry to someone on a visa, but they can't deny entry to a citizen or legal resident. They can keep your device, thoug…

I think you replied to the wrong comment. You're talking about citizen's rights and the comment you replied to is purely about non-citizens.
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