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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was placed in a cell before they found the Vance image. He also said the border guard didn’t like that image or an image of him with a wooden pipe. I don’t doubt that it’s possible he was denied because of the Vance image and that in itself says something terrible about the current state of affairs. But I think it’s more likely that he was stopped based on some other red flag like not having a return ticket and de…

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Don't make excuses for this abuse. The administration now in power in the US has been very clear - they oppose free speech and do not respect the constitution or Bill of Rights.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Let me just point out that the only source we have for this story is one angry Norwegian. The only verified fact is that he was denied entry.

It's pretty hard to corroborate a story like this. Everyone has to make their own judgment, but I cannot give the benefit of the doubt to the US government. What reason does this guy have to lie? If he was denied entry because of something actually illegal or non legit, why would he risk this exposure to make something up? If he wasn't denied entry and just decided to fly home and make up the lie, why pay for a vacation?

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It is worth noting that the US has been doing digital device searches coming up to twenty years now. I had my phone searched back in the early 2000s, and my most recent US Visa required me to list all social media accounts. I've even read (but not experienced) reports of GrayKey or UFED being used to download someone's unlocked phone for offline analysis also. Your choices at the border are either: Unlock your phone…

A more recent development is that you might also risk jail for weeks.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

They usually resort to legalisms for cases like this: "The guy wasn't an American citizen so first amendment doesn't apply. The border guard was ENTITLED to harass him. America #1!!"

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Nothing, because they don't care about jokes, political correctness or cancel culture. They care about fascism and grabbing more power for themselves.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Every generation has its "free-speech advocates" moaning, "you can’t say anything anymore." The current panics: political correctness, cancel culture, jokes under siege, has the usual suspects asking, "What will the free-speech crowd say about this one?"

This is a perfect example of Bourdieu's idea of symbolic violence and the violence of the arbitrary.

The uncomfortable truth is, for many the thrill isn't in enforcing fair rules, or even unfair ones. The thrill is in the power to enforce arbitrary rules. The point isn't who gets punished, it's that someone can be, at a moment's notice, for no coherent reason. And the joy is in unpredictability, in knowing they can shift the rules under your feet and there's no one appeal to.

This is the logic sitting beneath every hand-wringing editorial and rage-bait thread about "cancel culture run amok." The goal is sovereignty, not consistency. It's about who gets to draw the lines and when they can redraw them. Arbitrary enforcement isn't a bug. It’s the feature.

The clever "gotcha" crowd falls flat when they imagine that, by exposing contradictions, they'll force a confession, a moment of logic, an admission, and surrender. But that moment never comes. When the point is arbitrariness, contradiction isn't a failure. It's the currency of power. Pointing it out only proves you're not the one with power.

What will the "PC culture" critics say? Probably what they’ve always said. Remember, it's not about the arguments. It's about who gets to arbitrate, who gets to punish, and who gets to laugh last.

It always has been.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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post #138
post #56

His name was "Mads Mikkelsen", like the actor? Either he gave a fake name or this story is made up.

I don't understand this logic. It's a common Scandinavian name. It doesn't have to be either or.

The logic is pretty simple: I didn't know it was common :)

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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It is worth noting that the US has been doing digital device searches coming up to twenty years now. I had my phone searched back in the early 2000s, and my most recent US Visa required me to list all social media accounts. I've even read (but not experienced) reports of GrayKey or UFED being used to download someone's unlocked phone for offline analysis also. Your choices at the border are either: Unlock your phone…

Disable biometric unlock; you're not required to provide a passcode but you can be required to look at or touch the device. Cross with it turned off.

I don't think the threat of a fine or jail time is real. Even if the agents said that, that's not an actual legal penalty they can apply. They can deny entry to someone on a visa, but they can't deny entry to a citizen or legal resident. They can keep your device, though.

https://www.aclutx.org/en/news/can-border-agents-search-your... has a lot of good details.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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post #46

Mads Mikkelsen? I'm very skeptical that this is real, and kind of disappointed that HN is being so credulous.

Something tells me that you are the kind of person that would put a unique constraint on a table for the combination of first_name and last_name.
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