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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by jbm »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #86
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

The free speech crowd was never serious, they just want power and control over speech they don't like.

I'm pretty sure there is a free speech crowd that was serious about this; I just don't think it's as big as it is portrayed, maybe 5% of the US population at most. No one likes Free Speech when they are on the receiving end, but you learn to tolerate it.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by randallsquared »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #123
mellosouls wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As did JD Vance who retweeted them himself.

While he oversees a government that enforces punitive actions on speech. Guess which action is more important?

He oversees almost nothing. The VP has no constitutional powers except to tiebreak the senate and succeed the president.

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Post by Findecanor »

Disposal8433 wrote: post #29

Going to the USA as a tourist might be the most stupid action that one can make at this time. Unless you have a dying mother or father, there is absolutely no reason to visit this country. It reminds me of the tourists that used to go to North Korea for fun some years ago, it never was a good idea.

I expect this British man [0] to have cancelled this family trip to Miami now, after having found a picture online of his tattoo with his daughter's date and time of birth being published by the ICE as an example of a "Venezuelan gang tattoo".

0. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly22xm8kx1o

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by Workaccount2 »

jajuuka wrote: post #139
vbezhenar wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost any country can deny entry at will of border officer.

You completely missed the point. The issue isn't denying entry, it's denying entry for this reason.

He was detained before the image was found. It's most likely there is another detail to this story that is being left out.

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Post by happytoexplain »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #164
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Since most of us are rational, logically consistent people I think we’d condemn this as outrageous. Like any rational free-thinking American should.

I disagree that "most" of the people in the ideological camp the parent is alluding to are rational and logically consistent.

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Post by jimbokun »

paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

I hate censorship in all its forms. And it should surprise no one that the Trump administration have matched and exceeded the Biden administration's levels of free speech infringement.

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Post by JadeNB »

HillRat wrote: post #136
Analemma_ wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A little while ago Scott Alexander did a lengthy post about how Curtis Yarvin, aka Moldbug, has essentially backtracked on everything he ever said about tyranny and these days gleefully cheers on all the things he decried in his early writing. Yarvin's response was, essentially, "You actually believed that I believed that stuff? lmao, idiot. This was about power and now we have it, piss off." Yarvin is unusually cand…

It's been interesting watching who actually places rule of law and liberty above partisanship -- the Cheneys, tellingly, or Bill Kristol, or the Cato Institute -- and who has cheerfully befouled every declared principle they held in the name of untrammeled power. There are a number of law professors who talked a good game about common law liberty when the bad guy was the EPA, but signed on with Trump I and II the sec…

Yeah, going back and telling 2000 me and 2012 me that the Cheneys and Mitt Romney would become the conscience of the Republican party would have been interesting.

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Post by mosdl »

dyauspitr wrote: post #12

Should I start putting my phone in checked baggage? Is that allowed with the batteries and stuff? I guess I can carry a cheap older smartphone with a burner number for the actual flight.

Take out the sim and say the phone has no internet connection

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Post by barbazoo »

supertrope wrote: post #2

A teacher in school told me about the time they visited East Germany. Armed guards poked though his luggage. It's a slippery slope toward fascism.

> It's a slippery slope toward fascism.

Not sure I would ever consider the GDR to have been "fascist".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

JadeNB wrote: post #148
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wilhoit's Law "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

My favorite thing about Wilhoit's law, aside from the law itself in its elegant simplicity, is that it is by Frank Wilhoit, but not that Frank Wilhoit ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_M._Wilhoit ). Instead, it is from a one-off, though typically excellent, comment on Crooked Timber ( https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progre... ).

Yeah, it's a pretty great coincidence.
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