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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by lenerdenator »

Tade0 wrote: post #101
EA-3167 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

This is unheard of anywhere in the developed world. Security at airports simply doesn't have this sort of power outside the US.

That's simply not true.

Ask people who have tried going to Canada from the US how welcoming border guards can be at their ports of entry. Say the wrong thing or try to cross with the wrong thing (in my friend's case, it was a set of tools used to repair electronics) and they will try to jam you up and deny entry.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by School-Cotton »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #88
EA-3167 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

What percentage of unnecessary and abusive jailings would you - as a rational person - consider acceptable?

(Not the person you originally replied to).

Zero, but that's not the same question. If something I think is unacceptable happens at a low rate, the fact that I think it's bad doesn't mean it's necessarily rational to change one's travel plans because of it, if the rate is low enough.

If I go to Iceland, there is some nonzero chance I'll be killed in a surprise volcanic eruption, but I wouldn't let that deter me from visiting Iceland.

The relatively high violent crime rate in US cities which was already present before the current administration is already a much more real reason not to visit the US than authoritarian border guards, although I'd argue even that would be a bit exaggerated.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by knorker »

krunck wrote: post #44

This guy was certainly flagged before he got on the plane in Norway. The US has data sharing agreements with lots of countries. His online behaviour was already known. The Trump administration changed the filters for what they're looking for in people's profiles. This guy fit. If you are going to upset the empire with your on and offline behaviour, you better practice solid information hygene.

Then why was his ESTA approved?

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by deadbabe »

Disposal8433 wrote: post #29

Going to the USA as a tourist might be the most stupid action that one can make at this time. Unless you have a dying mother or father, there is absolutely no reason to visit this country. It reminds me of the tourists that used to go to North Korea for fun some years ago, it never was a good idea.

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by affinepplan »

cs702 wrote: post #58

Is that the only reason why entrance was denied? Is this story real ? I just checked, and nope, it's not April 1 yet. Does anyone here have addition information?

gotta love how credulous you people are to the most insane statements by this administration, and how skeptical you are of the most unsurprising events in the world.

this just in: agency infamous for fragile egos and abuse of power got their ego bruised and abused their power.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #40
yodsanklai wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, they'll find a way to justify it.

Wilhoit's Law "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

“For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law.”

https://plas.princeton.edu/news/2023/do-latin-america’s-top-...

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by School-Cotton »

Tade0 wrote: post #101
EA-3167 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

This is unheard of anywhere in the developed world. Security at airports simply doesn't have this sort of power outside the US.

> Security at airports simply doesn't have this sort of power outside the US.

No qualms with your actual point, but immigration/customs is not the same thing as airport security, sorry but it's my pet peeve when people conflate them.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by JadeNB »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #40
yodsanklai wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, they'll find a way to justify it.

Wilhoit's Law "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

My favorite thing about Wilhoit's law, aside from the law itself in its elegant simplicity, is that it is by Frank Wilhoit, but not that Frank Wilhoit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_M._Wilhoit). Instead, it is from a one-off, though typically excellent, comment on Crooked Timber (https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progre...).

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by remram »

vbezhenar wrote: post #114
pluc wrote: post #31

Hmmm, in what other country is it a punishable offence to make fun of its dear leaders? Thailand? North Korea? Myanmar? Like it or not, these countries are who you are being compared to.

Almost any country can deny entry at will of border officer.

Don't go by the submitted title only. He was detained for hours with no food or water, beaten up, strip-searched, forced to give blood samples.
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