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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by DocTomoe »

thrownaway561 wrote: post #41

you people have been had... RTFA... a tourist "claims" this happened. The tourist name is Mads Mikkelsen??? The dude has the same name as the fucking actor??? Really??? Seriously people, learn when things smell of bullshit and when it doesn't.

You are aware that names are not UUIDs, and that the same name can be used by several people, right? Especially since Mikkelsen is a rather common Danish surname (with around 35000 people named that) and Mads having been a very popular boy's name in the 1990s?

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

hermanzegerman wrote: post #126
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on decades of experience with my family: it's only political correctness when other people do it. When they do it, it's just common decency, common sense, family values, etc. And as far as the original story, individual border agents should absolutely not be doing this to people because they have a meme on their phone, doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself. There is straight up no justificati…

What values does the US represent?

Supposedly freedom of speech for one. Hard to see that as being real today.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by harry8 »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #91
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Based on decades of experience with my family: it's only political correctness when other people do it. When they do it, it's just common decency, common sense, family values, etc. And as far as the original story, individual border agents should absolutely not be doing this to people because they have a meme on their phone, doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself. There is straight up no justificati…

> doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself

No. Should have precisely zero baring on anything at all.

Reminder: Support of free speech requires support of the right to say things that you loathe by people you hate or you don’t support free speech.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by ryandrake »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #113
IncreasePosts wrote: post #10

Is this the visitor's own take on what happened? Or did they tell him "you're denied entry because of your JD Vance meme"? Per the article they also asked him a bunch of other things like about right wing terrorism. Maybe his answers sucked? Maybe he was being evasive? There was the case a few months ago of a Canadian lady being detained and denied entry "for no reason", and then it turned out she wanted to work in t…

So how many times does something like this need to happen before you accept that it's happening?

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by HillRat »

Analemma_ wrote: post #51
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

A little while ago Scott Alexander did a lengthy post about how Curtis Yarvin, aka Moldbug, has essentially backtracked on everything he ever said about tyranny and these days gleefully cheers on all the things he decried in his early writing. Yarvin's response was, essentially, "You actually believed that I believed that stuff? lmao, idiot. This was about power and now we have it, piss off." Yarvin is unusually cand…

It's been interesting watching who actually places rule of law and liberty above partisanship -- the Cheneys, tellingly, or Bill Kristol, or the Cato Institute -- and who has cheerfully befouled every declared principle they held in the name of untrammeled power. There are a number of law professors who talked a good game about common law liberty when the bad guy was the EPA, but signed on with Trump I and II the second they realized that tyranny was going to work in favor of their chosen policy preferences. Deeply dispiriting.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by happytoexplain »

hermanzegerman wrote: post #126
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on decades of experience with my family: it's only political correctness when other people do it. When they do it, it's just common decency, common sense, family values, etc. And as far as the original story, individual border agents should absolutely not be doing this to people because they have a meme on their phone, doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself. There is straight up no justificati…

What values does the US represent?

Freedom seems like the obvious example here, unless I'm not catching your meaning.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by jajuuka »

vbezhenar wrote: post #114
pluc wrote: post #31

Hmmm, in what other country is it a punishable offence to make fun of its dear leaders? Thailand? North Korea? Myanmar? Like it or not, these countries are who you are being compared to.

Almost any country can deny entry at will of border officer.

You completely missed the point. The issue isn't denying entry, it's denying entry for this reason.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by ethan_smith »

keerthiko wrote: post #85

from the article: > "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone." this isn't real/legal/enforceable (as the law currently stands) is it? how does one protect ourselves against this turn of events upon entry when the immigration officer's claim fails the smell test?

CBP has broad search authority at borders without warrants, and while they can't criminally charge you for refusing to unlock your device, they can deny entry, seize the device, and ban you from future entry - effectively making the "5 years in prison" threat misleading but the practical consequences still severe.
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