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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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No, that’s not planned obsolescence. Why would it become obsolete faster due to the lack of a phone jack? Not delivering updates, that’s planned obsolescence. I do agree however, that a jack is nice. Wired USB-C headphone do exist though, if you insist on wired.I am not an audiophile, wouldn’t that provide an even better sound quality potentially (digital to analog conversion happens later, not distortions due to cab…

UCB-C headphones use the same USB-C connector as the charging one (there are no smartphone with 2 usb-C connectors), therefore increasing the wear every time you plug/unplug. When using USB headphones you cannot charge at the same time, and when using USB-to-{usb+jack} the behavior is sometimes strange (e.g. does not detect and switch to internal audio when unplugging the jack). Besides, in many situations (especiall…

I do agree USB-C physically sucks, especially compared with lightning or audio jack.

But “reusing the same port for multiple purposes” can’t mean “planned obsolescence”. Making that port unrepairable, that, yes.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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I'm curious to know your current phone that passes that test.

Happens a lot: if the more ethical choice isn't perfect, I might as well stick with the very unethical choices.

This isn't binary, the virtue signaled "ethical" choice does not offset the things you have to give up for it.

If you don't care about phone manufacturing being basically completely in China, then all power to you, but as I live in country that has been illegally trade embargo-ed by China just five years ago, I do care about this a lot.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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I don't see anythng more "sustainable" in this phone compared to mainstream ones. Making it a bit more modular or repairable does not make it "sustainable".

It's not "a bit more repairable": it makes it repairable for people who would not be able to repair a mainstream phone. I have many friends who never repair their phone: as soon as something is broken they buy a new one, because the repair price is often very high. With FairPhone, you get 5 years of warranty and after that you can repair it yourself at a low price. If some people can repair their FairPhone instead of…

I had my local Apple store replace an iPhone battery for £69. If I Google "Fairphone 5 battery" it comes at about the same price (£45 - £65) just to get the part.

Of course, warranty won't cover aged battery or damage (which probably are 99% of repairs) in any case.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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When unscrewed, users are likely to be greeted with an option to remove the battery as well as it isn’t attached to the device with the help of glue but rather with additional screws. What a horrible state of things that "not gluing the battery in place but screwing it in" is considered an improvement. IMHO smartphones have been on a horrible decline ever since ~2016. Before then, most Androids had [1] easily replace…

Do you think they're screwing it in for fun?

I'd rather my phone be more robust than worry about unscrewing a couple more screws when I need to replace the battery (hopefully a rare occurrence anyway). I don't know anyone that carried around spare batteries like in that ad, so although a good ad it doesn't really speak to customer usage.

I'd also like my phone to be as-waterproof-as-possible, and am willing to sacrifice a back that comes open without any screws or similar.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

I had a Xiaomi phone with a fingerprint reader on the back, and now I have a Pixel phone with a fingerprint reader on the screen. It took about a week to get used to the new location, and I have been doing well since then. Do you have specific issues with it?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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I find this comment really irritating, sorry. This is a thread about the upcoming fairphone, with people praising things done right. Your comment feel needlessly provocative with no information other than your negative opinion. You've implied Fairphone have turned crap, whilst mentioning a bunch of good stuff they've done, and then how you won't be buying their phones anymore. Seriously, what was the point of this co…

I guess if you're not familiar with fairphones products my comment's pretty meaningless, sorry. The parent comment implied that manufacturers stopped having all the listed features after 2016, but fairphone was still doing all that up until 2021. That's why I bought their phone. Then they removed the headphone jack in the 4, and now they're removing tool-less battery/sim replacement. That's why I won't be buying anot…

If you have a FP3, did it never fall down, throwing its battery out? I had that happen a few times to me in the past and I always wished for a tiny bit more "grip" on the battery. I would guess that I'm not the only one.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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> Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. You can also do this with under-screen fingerprint readers which are excellent these days.

I have never been able to unlock my under-screen fingerprint reader by taking it out of my pocket. This is because the reader isn't in a good position when the phone is in my pocket. Yes, it's where my thumb is when properly holding my phone, but my grip is different when pulling the phone out of my pocket. My older phone with the reader on the back had my index finger in position before I even attempted to take out…

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

I guess this is highly subjective, I was just talking with my girlfriend last night about how much I dislike when the fingerprint reader is not on the front. Specifically because only if it is on the front I can easily use it when my phone is lying on the table. Also, my current phone phone has it on the back and I can only configure one fingerprint, so if for some reason I am holding it in my left hand I am out of l…

Maybe they should provide both options.

Not every phone needs to be "opinionated" ...

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