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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

0x38B wrote: post #204
godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

The fingerprint reader is one of the things I most love about my iPhone SE; I don’t see any reason to get a new phone. Apple’s declining software quality and walled garden incline me more and more towards ditching iPhone for GrapheneOS or a dumb phone like the Punkt MP; I find far more joy reading on an eReader, taking photos with a camera, or taking notes in my notebook than I do using the phone for any of those. Es…

Devices like the Punkt MP would great in an ideal world (if they had support for something like XMPP). But in practice, a huge amount of people use Telegram, or WeChat or some other network for which you need a native phone app.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by al_borland »

wiether wrote: post #306
thallium205 wrote: post #123

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My wife and her sister can unlock each other’s iPhones using the face unlock feature which blows my mind because they do NOT look super similar and are 4 years apart. I’ve turned off all biometrics and use only a PIN. I’m extremely skeptical of the tech.

That's weird! I got braces recently and I had to go through the FaceID process again because it didn't recognized me anymore. Obviously my teeth are quite different with my mouth open, but apparently, it modified my face enough when mouth closed that FaceID thaught I was not myself anymore.

Wow, that’s pretty interesting. I wouldn’t think that would be enough to impact it without some accompanying procedures, like expanding the pallet, or some kind of jaw surgery.

Was it right away from getting the braces put on (from a little extra bulk on the teeth), or after they’ve been on for several months, where the movement of the teeth could change the structure of the face around the mouth?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by robocat »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #171
Pfeil wrote: post #108

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Reading this on my Fairphone 5 and can't reproduce this issue. But I admit that sometimes I just want to see the lock screen and accidentally unlock the phone. Therefore, I still agree. The back is the better position for the fingerprint reader.

It rarely happens right when locking the phone, mosty because I already developed the habit to press the power button not with the tip of my thumb but lower down, where the joint is. But when shoving it back in my pocket it still happens on a regular basis, even when I try to avoid it. The button is just located in such a way that it's very hard to avoid touching it while doing so. Then I pull it out a while later to…

The digitizer chip vendors get a percentage of every app purchase.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by al_borland »

Gigachad wrote: post #145
svachalek wrote: post #144

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Your watch should not unlock someone else's phone though.

The point is if you have watch unlock enabled and someone unlocks your phone standing right next to you, it's still in range to unlock your phone with your watch.

Doesn’t the screen indicate which unlock method it’s using?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by al_borland »

mrweasel wrote: post #243
al_borland wrote: post #117

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I was a FaceID skeptic and it quickly won me over, not because of the unlocking experience, but for the authentication during use. What used to be a prompt, followed by an active fingerprint scan, turned into something completely seamless and automatic.

FaceID does have two flaws in my mind. 1) I frequently unlock my phone while it's laying flat on the desk a good distance from my face. The camera can't see me, and certainly not well enough to identify me. 2) I don't believe that you can add a second FaceID. Currently I have a few fingers added to my TouchID, including my wifes index finger, allowing her to unlock my phone.

Regarding flaw 2, this was the case at launch, but they added an option to register an “additional appearance”.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

stiray wrote: post #265

I am still waiting for Fairphone and Graphene OS collaboration. This is match made in heaven. Any Fairphone/GrapheneOS developer reading this? Just do it, document if something is not secure enough for you, but do it. Nothing to think about, you fit together like hand and a glove and any seconds thoughts are depriving the planet of THE PHONE! Pick the cash we will throw at you and make second generation with the cpu…

I recently suggested that GrapheneOS support devices with average security on Mastodon. Much like yourself, I think "moderately okay security" is better than "just use Google's spyware infested OS".

The GrapheneOS folks replied in disagreement, insisting that this is a terrible idea because security would be less than perfect. They then started making up stories about me and throwing around unfounded accusations. I don't trust them in the slightest, and strongly recommend staying away from them.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

IlikeKitties wrote: post #308
stiray wrote: post #297

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Sure they have a mission. But sometimes mission can be done by taking 1 step back to later make 2 steps forward in fast pace. At the end all profit. While in current state, the culprit, Google profits. And please keep fallacies like "do it yourself" for yourself, I am talking about collaboration, feel free to open another thread on top level about forks. Same goes for /e/ ... they just dont compare. GrapheneOS has tw…

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An OS which focuses on security and privacy with slightly imperfect hardware is much better than an OS which focuses on spyware and tracking from an adtech company on the same hardware.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by xeonmc »

snarg wrote: post #345
palata wrote: post #315

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> then used as mini PCs, media players, IoT wall terminals with bigger screens or other uses If they can be used like that, why couldn't they be used... as phones? Changing phone every two years is not sustainable, even if the old phone is used as an IoT wall terminal: it's still "consuming" one phone every two years. In a sense, an old phone in a drawer uses less energy than an old phone staying powered to control a…

> If they can be used like that, why couldn't they be used... as phones? To facilitate planned obsolescence, manufacturers stop providing OS updates after a relatively short time. And then they cease providing security patches after a... still relatively short time. If you unlock the device and install a custom ROM, which may or may not function adequately for you to begin with, then you're probably also compromising…

Why couldn’t manufacturers proclaiming to espouse longevity, such as Fairphone, release the vendor source code for out-of-support hardware which are supposedly no longer relevant and so doesn’t matter if the competition can see the code? Or is it an issue of signing certificates?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

userbinator wrote: post #139

When unscrewed, users are likely to be greeted with an option to remove the battery as well as it isn’t attached to the device with the help of glue but rather with additional screws. What a horrible state of things that "not gluing the battery in place but screwing it in" is considered an improvement. IMHO smartphones have been on a horrible decline ever since ~2016. Before then, most Androids had [1] easily replace…

I saw some Edifier desktop speakers the other day which listed as a feature "No built-in microphone for privacy protection".

It's sad what kind of things are considered "features" these days.

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