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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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phone wishlist:

  - user-replaceable battery
  - 7+ years of security updates
  - iPhone 13 mini size
  - iPhone 13 mini camera quality
  - plastic exterior
  - headphone jack
  - fairphone-style sustainability, repairability and part availability
  - GrapheneOS compatibility
  - fingerprint reader either on the back or on the power button
I miss my Pyxel 4a :-(

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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I am still waiting for Fairphone and Graphene OS collaboration. This is match made in heaven. Any Fairphone/GrapheneOS developer reading this? Just do it, document if something is not secure enough for you, but do it. Nothing to think about, you fit together like hand and a glove and any seconds thoughts are depriving the planet of THE PHONE! Pick the cash we will throw at you and make second generation with the cpu…

I, for one, would buy one.

Make it small and I would buy 3.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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> It's about cutting costs and having one less hole water can get in. That's a lazy excuse. Every single IP68 rugged phone has a headphone jack. And the ones that are more waterproof even made for diving with them also have one.

Those rugged phones are also thicker and more expensive for what you're getting. Mainstream companies have tried offering the headphone jack in some phones and every single time, those phone have undersold their jackless competitors.

> Those rugged phones are also thicker and more expensive for what you're getting. Mainstream companies have tried offering the headphone jack in some phones and every single time, those phone have undersold their jackless competitors.

Yeah… the budget Moto G3 from 2015 with IPX7 says hi. To the limited surprise of anyone who was familiar with the brand back then, the top model (16GB/2gb) sold out in less than a week.

You can’t tell me it’s harder to waterproof a headphone jack in 2025 than it was in 2015. And could you please tell me how a rubber gasket adds appreciable thickness to a phone? Because I find that a bit hard to believe.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

i got rid of my pixel and went back to sony because of the fingerprint sensor being on the back. when its lying flat on a desk you have to lift it up to unlock it, same deal when its in a dock of some sort, its very awkward. having it on the side is a much better idea

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Fairphone has yet to figure out how to deal with updates in a timely and stable matter and we are 5 phones in. And all their phones consistently had hardware issues of some kind or another.

I wish them good luck, their phones are the kind of device i'd like to buy but i'll do that after they have proven that they can actually deliver what they promise.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

#278
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Why would you call the Fairphone an insecure device? It has long update support and can re-lock the bootloader, which is like the one criteria ROMs like that pick as the security feature. What is your attack scenario, what your security criteria here? microG is not a drawback, it's a proper FOSS implementation, which I vastly prefer to running Gapps in a sandbox. App compatibility has been perfect for me. The main cr…

Thanks for the vid. I've been down the rabbit hole now. Looks like he departed the project though?

Micay did not fully leave the project [1]. AFAIK he is the only senior developer left, after their other senior developer was forcibly conscripted earlier this year [2].

[1] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12565-is-gos-development-sl...

[2] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/21819-impact-of-ongoing-war...

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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post #265

I am still waiting for Fairphone and Graphene OS collaboration. This is match made in heaven. Any Fairphone/GrapheneOS developer reading this? Just do it, document if something is not secure enough for you, but do it. Nothing to think about, you fit together like hand and a glove and any seconds thoughts are depriving the planet of THE PHONE! Pick the cash we will throw at you and make second generation with the cpu…

Fairphones consistently doesn't support a quarter of what graphene os requires. See their FAQ:

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Unless Fairphone becomes significantly better in their security and update policy and integrate a whole lot of new features it's not gonna happen.

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