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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Fade_Dance »

godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

Sensor on power button is far more elegant, imo. I've had all three solutions and that one stood out as the clear winner.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by mslansn »

userbinator wrote: post #139

When unscrewed, users are likely to be greeted with an option to remove the battery as well as it isn’t attached to the device with the help of glue but rather with additional screws. What a horrible state of things that "not gluing the battery in place but screwing it in" is considered an improvement. IMHO smartphones have been on a horrible decline ever since ~2016. Before then, most Androids had [1] easily replace…

I don’t miss dropping my phone and the battery and the SIM card flying away into the sunset.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by yanosc »

Artoooooor wrote: post #107
strangecasts wrote: post #2

Was lucky enough to get my Fairphone 4 on sale, but I'd happily pay full price now - even though the Fairphones are pricey for the specs, unless you absolutely need 24 cores etc. I'd say they are worth it, knowing the company is at least trying to improve the parts supply chain, and knowing you stand a chance of fixing the devices yourself (luckily I've only had to replace the USB-C port, which was trivial) About the…

Still no headphone jack in fairphone 6? Damn, I was almost sure it will by my next phone :(

I'm curious. Why is this such an important thing for you? I seems like a usbc to 3.5mm jack would solve most of the issue.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by butz »

Why phones are so huge nowadays? How are you people carrying them? Oh how I wish for a compact sized phone, something like iPhone 13 mini, but with USB-C connector. And those camera bumps, don't get me started on those. If you cannot fit camera into phone, why not make whole device a bit thicker.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by uncircle »

butz wrote: post #254

Why phones are so huge nowadays? How are you people carrying them? Oh how I wish for a compact sized phone, something like iPhone 13 mini, but with USB-C connector. And those camera bumps, don't get me started on those. If you cannot fit camera into phone, why not make whole device a bit thicker.

I am still angry at Apple for dropping the mini line. I know it wasn’t popular, but if there’s anyone that can afford having a line that “only” sells a few hundred thousand units it’s Apple. I guess that’s what happens when the company is run by a bean counter :(

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by upcoming-sesame »

mslansn wrote: post #252
userbinator wrote: post #139

When unscrewed, users are likely to be greeted with an option to remove the battery as well as it isn’t attached to the device with the help of glue but rather with additional screws. What a horrible state of things that "not gluing the battery in place but screwing it in" is considered an improvement. IMHO smartphones have been on a horrible decline ever since ~2016. Before then, most Androids had [1] easily replace…

I don’t miss dropping my phone and the battery and the SIM card flying away into the sunset.

if the back is still screwed low chance it will happen

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by UnreachableCode »

onli wrote: post #215
bramhaag wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In which ways is CalyxOS "better"? This comparison is pretty damning: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm Calyx is _not_ a hardened OS, and runs on devices with insecure hardware and firmware (like a Fairphone). Additionally, app compatibility suffers because they use microG instead of proper sandboxed Gapps, and also lacks many QoL features that guard against hostile apps (storage scopes, contact scop…

Why would you call the Fairphone an insecure device? It has long update support and can re-lock the bootloader, which is like the one criteria ROMs like that pick as the security feature. What is your attack scenario, what your security criteria here? microG is not a drawback, it's a proper FOSS implementation, which I vastly prefer to running Gapps in a sandbox. App compatibility has been perfect for me. The main cr…

Thanks for the vid. I've been down the rabbit hole now. Looks like he departed the project though?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by whyoh »

tsimionescu wrote: post #237
LtWorf wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Manufacturers build products the market wants. Every single person wants smaller phones. What do we get? No small phones. Apple doesn't count… they are priced at 3x 4x what an android would cost. People want small phones but don't want to spend their whole salary on a phone.

I don't know of a single person who has switched to a smaller phone after having a bigger one (though also don't know anyone who bought a phablet, so maybe that's too big). As people moved most of their computer use to phones, bigger phones where you can see more of the web on your page, while still fitting in your pocket or purse, have won decidedly. By and large, the only people who want small phones are those that…

>I don't know of a single person who has switched to a smaller phone

It's difficult to do that when the available phones are just getting bigger. Ten years ago you could still find sub 6" phones easily. These days, not so much.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by sn0wleppard »

Fade_Dance wrote: post #251
godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

Sensor on power button is far more elegant, imo. I've had all three solutions and that one stood out as the clear winner.

This is maybe specific to the model, but my previous phone (Xperia 10 V) had its sensor on the power button and I'd always unintentionally unlock it immediately after locking it and putting it back in my pocket

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by mslansn »

upcoming-sesame wrote: post #256
mslansn wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t miss dropping my phone and the battery and the SIM card flying away into the sunset.

if the back is still screwed low chance it will happen

Does it matter that the battery is screwed if the back is screwed too? You will need a screwdriver to access it anyway.

Batteries must be glued or screwed, otherwise sudden movements can turn the phone off.

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