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They're almost certainly not using the same version as the general public. Most major service providers have a specific version for government with additional controls and restrictions and have undergone certification through FedRAMP, including Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/government Some other examples: - AWS GovCloud https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ - Google Workspace for Government h…
WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
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#132I can't imagine any justification for any government device that should be secure to have anything on it but the bare minimum software and the device in whatever hardened mode it has. If they visit the White House, government facility ... should go in a locker. I worked for a company that sent people onsite to government contractors. One contractor we rarely visited was at a facility where you arrived at the front ga…
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Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.
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#134> "high-risk to users due to the lack of transparency in how it protects user data..."
> "We disagree with the House Chief Administrative Officer's characterization in the strongest possible terms."
It seems like this is non-responsive to the first claim. Meta goes on to say that WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted, but the quotes never really do address the transparency issue.
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#135Government: Zuck put a backdoor in WhatsApp or we will put you in a blacksite UFC ring and beat you up. Also Government: WhatsApp has a backdoor. Don't use it.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
WhatsApp is always end-to-end encrypted, Teams only in certain cases.
If you think end-to-end encryption is the only thing that matters in security, then yeah sure, WhatsApp is more secure. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to let people know I thought that way, but to each their own.
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#137Serious question: who else takes for granted that Zuck gets a daily summary of all high-level federal governmental communications, as harvested via backdoors or simply from non-end-to-end encrypted traffic on any Meta property? I assume he does. I assume moreover that most people aware of this at Meta consider this due diligence in defending shareholder value. What's that line from Dune 2, a wise hunter climbs the ta…
What would Meta get out of spying on their own government? That's a "life in secret jail" kind of risk for a sickeningly rich CEO with a private island. We haven't even found any evidence of backdoors used against foreign governments, they'd be pretty stupid to attack the American government. Plus, when it comes to important communications, the weird, hacked, Israeli Signal fork already has access to these documents…
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
WhatsApp also feels... tonally weird to use at a serious company, like in the same way it would feel weird to be using snapchat for team meetings.
WhatsApp is already the de facto communication channel in a lot of countries. In Brazil even subpoenas can be sent via WhatsApp.
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#139I can't imagine any justification for any government device that should be secure to have anything on it but the bare minimum software and the device in whatever hardened mode it has. If they visit the White House, government facility ... should go in a locker. I worked for a company that sent people onsite to government contractors. One contractor we rarely visited was at a facility where you arrived at the front ga…
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Signal would be the obvious choice here - open source, no AI integration, minimal metadata collection, and recommended by security professionals for sensitive communications.
Signal lacks other compliance features. e.g. message archiving It might be good if you're a journalist, but it's not as good if you have compliance requirements beyond confidentiality.