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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by UnreachableCode »

noisy_boy wrote: post #212
fooqux wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's excellent news that they're partnering with an OEM to make something. Here's hoping it's someone like Framework that has sustainability in mind as well.

Why not Framework themselves? By now, they have brand recognition to certain extent and a ready customer base - I think a Framework phone with choices of GrapheneOS or LineageOS or standard Googleized option could be a very compelling product. That is if they can sort out their availability gaps.

Massive cost.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by onli »

dsr_ wrote: post #63
onli wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CalyxOS support Fairphones. It is a better option anyway, also supports bootloader relocking etc.

Is the combination proof against pre-unlock attacks with Cellebrite? (I would like the answer to be yes, and I would like the answer to be yes for many more phones and OS combos. I don't think it is.)

I don't know. It seems unclear to me which capabilities those attack devices have and which security measures would be required. The locked bootloader, short update interval and the security option to block unknown USB devices might protect against that, might not. I saw no statement in either direction from the project.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Foobar8568 »

strangecasts wrote: post #2

Was lucky enough to get my Fairphone 4 on sale, but I'd happily pay full price now - even though the Fairphones are pricey for the specs, unless you absolutely need 24 cores etc. I'd say they are worth it, knowing the company is at least trying to improve the parts supply chain, and knowing you stand a chance of fixing the devices yourself (luckily I've only had to replace the USB-C port, which was trivial) About the…

Security patch once every 3months... I regret buying a FP4.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Foobar8568 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #217
lawn wrote: post #10

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I've been very happy with my Fairphone 4 that I've had for 4 years now running CalyxOS. I could probably use it for a few more years but I may upgrade to the 6 if the speakers/microphone are better (and to support the company).

> I could probably use it for a few more years but I may upgrade to the 6 if the speakers/microphone are better I don't get this. Isn't the whole concept of the company modular parts? Shouldn't you be able to put the better speakers in your existing phone?

It's not modular, and each fairphone is not compatible with the previous one. FP3 had an update camera if I remember well but it was the exception.

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Post by imp0cat »

Pfeil wrote: post #108
guappa wrote: post #90

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Yeah it's great! I want to put off the screen and instantly after going off, it reads my finger and goes on again! Who came up with that idea?

Reading this on my Fairphone 5 and can't reproduce this issue. But I admit that sometimes I just want to see the lock screen and accidentally unlock the phone. Therefore, I still agree. The back is the better position for the fingerprint reader.

Can you use double tap to wake when you just need to check the screen? This will also reduce the mechanical stress on the physical unlock button.

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Post by tosmatos »

cantalopes wrote: post #82

I love concept but the only thing that's keeping me from buying it is that it's too big. They don't make small phones anymore:( the last perfect model i had a chanc3 to have was huawei p10- a perfect 5.1 display

I feel you. A repairable phone that's 5 inches would be so perfect. I miss my the Xperia X Compact so bad, I loved that phone, I had Lineage OS on it and it was great. It wasn't easy to repair though. Now I've got a Jelly Star, and it's pretty much the same problems, plus no updates in a while.

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Post by notpushkin »

crazygringo wrote: post #129
godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

> I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use) Because it works for authentication too. My password manager just... automatically authenticates me without me having to tap a thing. It recognizes the login form on the validated domain, it scans my face, it fills in my info. Same as paying with Wallet, I just slide up the credit card I want to use and it scans my face as I hold it against th…

Would be great if both options were available simultaneously. Face ID didn’t pass? Just scan your finger instead and carry on.

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Post by dehrmann »

konfusinomicon wrote: post #159
godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

the scene early in Demolition Man where Wesley Snipes takes advantage of the most critical flaw in biometric security has always made me shy away from it. if someone is motivated enough, removal of the unlocking body part is all to easy so I'll stick with pass codes or patterns

> motivated enough

https://xkcd.com/538/

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

SlowTao wrote: post #137
illiac786 wrote: post #128

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No, that’s not planned obsolescence. Why would it become obsolete faster due to the lack of a phone jack? Not delivering updates, that’s planned obsolescence. I do agree however, that a jack is nice. Wired USB-C headphone do exist though, if you insist on wired.I am not an audiophile, wouldn’t that provide an even better sound quality potentially (digital to analog conversion happens later, not distortions due to cab…

There seems to be more movement in the standards space on wireless headphones. The wireless standard today could be very different in 5-10 years time. The 3.5mm jack is over a century old, it isn't being changed dramatically in any way. Personally, I am just not a fan of something that requires both a software connection that usually isn't always the smoothest thing rather than a direct hardware connection. And havin…

Hot take maybe but I think it would be a worthwhile endeavor to come up with a replacement for the 3.5mm audio jack. It’s served us well but there’s several improvements that could be made to it that’d make it more durable and less prone to issues like becoming loose. It’s probably longer than it strictly needs to be too.

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Post by planb »

codedokode wrote: post #158
godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

How you can ensure that your fingerprints are not sent somewhere (and your face model when using Face ID)?

How can you ensure that your phone is not recording you 24/7? It’s called „trust“. Trust in the vendor, trust in independent 3rd parties that would identify such an issue, trust in capitalism because this would certainly be very bad publicity.
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