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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by godelski »

aceazzameen wrote: post #58
nicoburns wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. You can also do this with under-screen fingerprint readers which are excellent these days.

I have never been able to unlock my under-screen fingerprint reader by taking it out of my pocket. This is because the reader isn't in a good position when the phone is in my pocket. Yes, it's where my thumb is when properly holding my phone, but my grip is different when pulling the phone out of my pocket. My older phone with the reader on the back had my index finger in position before I even attempted to take out…

Plus you can feel it on the back which gives you natural feedback

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by snapplebobapple »

godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

Have you tried phones with it on the power button? That was the best for me by far.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by dsr_ »

onli wrote: post #6
exabrial wrote: post #4

ahhh I wish GrapheneOS was supported on these!

CalyxOS support Fairphones. It is a better option anyway, also supports bootloader relocking etc.

Is the combination proof against pre-unlock attacks with Cellebrite?

(I would like the answer to be yes, and I would like the answer to be yes for many more phones and OS combos. I don't think it is.)

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by emsign »

winternewt wrote: post #19
jack_pp wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's about planned obsolescence. It's about cutting costs and having one less hole water can get in. Also wired headphones are a very niche market. If you care so much there are wireless DACs that can feed your wired headphones better than any phone in history.

How do they avoid lossy compression?

By applying Psychoacoustics. Lossy compression is a problem long solved.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Bluestein »

godelski wrote: post #61
aceazzameen wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never been able to unlock my under-screen fingerprint reader by taking it out of my pocket. This is because the reader isn't in a good position when the phone is in my pocket. Yes, it's where my thumb is when properly holding my phone, but my grip is different when pulling the phone out of my pocket. My older phone with the reader on the back had my index finger in position before I even attempted to take out…

Plus you can feel it on the back which gives you natural feedback

Not to mention some models has haptic feedback and everything, upon unlock ...

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by totallykvothe »

stavros wrote: post #57
godelski wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well my original question was where your index finger was, not your thumb

The original topic was about unlocking your phone while taking it out of your pocket, which is done with the thumb.

Is your thumb the only place you have a fingerprint? I used my index finger on my Pixel 2

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by stavros »

totallykvothe wrote: post #67
stavros wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original topic was about unlocking your phone while taking it out of your pocket, which is done with the thumb.

Is your thumb the only place you have a fingerprint? I used my index finger on my Pixel 2

On the power button? How was that comfortable for you?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by jeroenhd »

msgodel wrote: post #8

They should switch to an SOC with mainline Linux support so you don't have to throw it out in three years.

They intentionally chose a Qualcomm QCM6490 for the FP5 instead of the rumoured Snapdragon because Qualcomm will offer longer support for that chipset (which is supposed to be used for IoT/industrial applications). We don't know what chip is in the new one yet, all we have is rumours, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the same "Snapdragon but industrial" trick here.

Many mainline supported SOCs are unavailable to a company like Fairphone, which only produces a tiny amount of phones (less than 50k for the latest and greatest model). CPU manufacturers aren't going to waste time sending their top-end chips to some small company when Samsung can pay more per CPU and can take shipping containers full of them. That's also why F(x)tec phones come out with such outdated processors. Small companies will have to make do with whatever niche products are for sale in low quantities.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by fennecbutt »

godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

For all the hate that I give apple (great hardware, terrible company, wasted potential) it was extremely smart of them to buy PrimeSense. Even Microsoft kinda missed that boat.
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