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Sorry for your loss. I too virtually stopped using Discord in favor of, mostly, Reddit (lesser of two evils).
I'm not sure how the two are remotely comparable. I don't go to Reddit for live discussion, voice and video chat, etc.
I'm building a lot on discord right now, I like it but I keep getting scared, then I think, eh, irc servers could have gone away too I suppose, in fact they did, much was lost. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of nuanced thinking in this though.
Discord on the other hand does everything IRC does but people have made it take the place of forums, blogs, file repos, etc etc. All this information is locked up in a platform that can't be searched or often even accessed without signing up for the platform. Unlike IRC however Discord is not a protocol that others can tie into - it's a platform and they can/do actively lock people out of it.
What's even stranger to me is that Discord was putting on a full-court press to get developers onto their platform over the last twelve months. This kind of response is certainly not going to help make devs feel all warm and fuzzy about continuing to build on Discord.
But it's hard to ignore actual people on the street in front of your office calling out your bullshit. In addition, it gives nice pictures for the press, and that's the only thing investors actually fear.
I'm building a lot on discord right now, I like it but I keep getting scared, then I think, eh, irc servers could have gone away too I suppose, in fact they did, much was lost. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of nuanced thinking in this though.
The massive nuance you are missing is that IRC had a default expectation of being ephemeral in nature. Sure you might use IRC for chatting and have some bots around that - but typically your long term storage of information would have been handled in something like a forum, website, email list, file repository, etc - so that even if an individual IRC server went down it wasn't a big deal to move along. IRC was/is les…
Bouncers and log bots have been a thing even 20 years ago when I was active on Freenode. In fact, a bouncer and log bot was what made me get my very first own VPS... time flies. It lasted a year until my first attempt at a libc upgrade failed, that was a lot of work to fix.
It feels to me like Discord is speed-running the developer relations playbook that we've seen happen over a longer timeframe with large platforms like Apple and Google. This is the second high profile incident like this in recent weeks IIRC. What's even stranger to me is that Discord was putting on a full-court press to get developers onto their platform over the last twelve months. This kind of response is certainly…
Repeat after me and frame this. Never build your main business on somebody else's platform. Always assume that you will get shutdown / rugged when you do so.
Yep. It’s a lesson that keeps being re-learned the hard way.
However, they do claim that Mee6 (the biggest Discord bot by # of servers, iirc) offers a similar feature but Discord is letting them slide?