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See https://archive.ph/oXYXe for more info about TeleMessage version of Signal approved for use by government offices.
WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
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Re: WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
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Can you explain why the thinking is wrong?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
That wasn't signal's fault. They accidentally invited a journalist to the chat.
While it is correct that this was a PEBKAC error rather than Signal's error, I would like to suggest that, in general, all mobile phone apps are poor choices for anything as sensitive as planning a missile strike.
Of course, the US government already has approved procedures and devices for secure communication, so senior official making up their own is reckless and unprofessional.
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It doesn't mean that MS Teams is safer, it means that the government has tighter control on MS Teams. Or maybe that Microsoft pays more than Meta.
MS products allow you to store data locally without any egress, so an IT team has access to it. This is the sticking point, because WhatsApp has now integrated Meta AI into the app, but (obviously) do not provide an on-prem data store. This is why Deepseek AI (the Deepseek app) and ChatGPT (the OpenAI app) are barred as well. Data Stewardship and Zero Trust has been an internal initiative in the House for a couple ye…
Re: WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
#75When I was at unnamed major financial institution, we were ordered to stop using WhatsApp, but it had nothing to do with security and everything to do with avoiding even the possibility of the appearance of backroom dealing or production avoidance in the event of subpoena. Maybe the truth has more to do with that, or maybe not, what do I know, who are all you people anyway, and why am I posting here?
WhatsApp also feels... tonally weird to use at a serious company, like in the same way it would feel weird to be using snapchat for team meetings.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
MS products allow you to store data locally without any egress, so an IT team has access to it. This is the sticking point, because WhatsApp has now integrated Meta AI into the app, but (obviously) do not provide an on-prem data store. This is why Deepseek AI (the Deepseek app) and ChatGPT (the OpenAI app) are barred as well. Data Stewardship and Zero Trust has been an internal initiative in the House for a couple ye…
Isn't deepseek 100% open source?
Re: WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
#77When I was at unnamed major financial institution, we were ordered to stop using WhatsApp, but it had nothing to do with security and everything to do with avoiding even the possibility of the appearance of backroom dealing or production avoidance in the event of subpoena. Maybe the truth has more to do with that, or maybe not, what do I know, who are all you people anyway, and why am I posting here?
Re: WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
MS products allow you to store data locally without any egress, so an IT team has access to it. This is the sticking point, because WhatsApp has now integrated Meta AI into the app, but (obviously) do not provide an on-prem data store. This is why Deepseek AI (the Deepseek app) and ChatGPT (the OpenAI app) are barred as well. Data Stewardship and Zero Trust has been an internal initiative in the House for a couple ye…
Isn't deepseek 100% open source?
[0] - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/deepseek-ai-assistant/id673759...
Re: WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
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I ban Whatsapp but require Teams on company devices. Can you explain why the thinking is wrong?
Re: WhatsApp banned on House staffers' devices
#80Government: Zuck put a backdoor in WhatsApp or we will put you in a blacksite UFC ring and beat you up. Also Government: WhatsApp has a backdoor. Don't use it.
The Government is made up of a huge number of organizations with competing goals, budgets, capabilities, and interests.