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US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

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Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

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Scary stuff. I don't have social media, but from time to time I would create and delete Facebook/Twitter/Instagram accounts. Never posted anything. Just used them for auth/developer/Marketplace...etc. But I don't know all the logins I used in the past... So if I fail to provide a login to an empty profile, do I get permabanned from the US?

Could you share the definition of social media the excludes HN ?

There are no features on HN to "connect" to others. The discussions and content of HN could be 100% the same even if all usernames and profiles were hidden. So I'm not sure a definition of social media could possibly include a site where the people are disconnected from the content.

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

#72
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> The embassy also wants people to set their social media profiles to public. Good thing I have no interest in visiting the land of the "free" anytime soon.

I was thinking about presenting at a conference in the USA in november, but the risks and abuse associated with entrance are now so high, it's out of the question. The world can no longer center on the USA.

The tr*mp administration seems to think they are inviolable, that they can solve every problem with the military. They'll be caught with their pants down. A $400 drone can now take out a $2B piece of equipment. That waters the mouth of any adversary. A great humbling is coming.

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

#73

It seems to me one of the methods of control in oppressive States is to have a multitude of rules, which are impractical to actually adhere to, where failure to adhere provides leverage to State - a "justification" for State to then do whatever it is it decides to do with you (such as deportation without due process).

While your perspective bias undermines your point, this form of government (i.e. vague laws, the highly selective application of them, and the use of the justice system regardless of guilt as a weapon to suppress dissent by middle classes (e.g. threat of bankruptcy, threats of long term pre-trial detention, etc.) has existed for quite some time.

It goes by different names depending on your bias, but it exists. The right side of the political spectrum would call it anarcho-tyranny.

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

#74
post #13

Haven't these guys heard of the "reciprocity principle"? When I went to Brazil a few years ago, the basic price for a tourist visa was like $25 and could be done online. But, if you were a US citizen, it cost $150 and you had to schedule an attend an interview in person -- because , those were the costs and burdens placed on Brazilian citizens to apply for a US visa. Does the US want other countries inspecting our ci…

> Haven't these guys heard of the "reprocity principle"?

Did you see the trade war started recently with every country in the world? I don't think anything is being thoroughly planned or thought out in this administration. They're all about power and not governance.

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

#75

People are already being denied entry based on social media posts. Censorship? Anyone? Scary times.

> Scary times

It was Michael Moore in Bowling for Columbine[1] who commented on fear:

> Moore’s central argument emerges as he explores the role of fear in American society and how it relates to gun violence. He suggests that the American government and media perpetuate a culture of fear, which in turn drives people to arm themselves, benefiting gun manufacturers and retailers. To illustrate this point, Moore compares the United States to other countries, particularly Canada, which has a high rate of gun ownership but significantly fewer gun-related deaths.

Perhaps this is just another form of fear: fear of others.

[1] https://watchdocumentaries.com/bowling-for-columbine/

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

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Haven't these guys heard of the "reciprocity principle"? When I went to Brazil a few years ago, the basic price for a tourist visa was like $25 and could be done online. But, if you were a US citizen, it cost $150 and you had to schedule an attend an interview in person -- because , those were the costs and burdens placed on Brazilian citizens to apply for a US visa. Does the US want other countries inspecting our ci…

The xenophobes making these decisions don't care if they create problems for US citizens traveling abroad.

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

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post #8

> The embassy also wants people to set their social media profiles to public. Good thing I have no interest in visiting the land of the "free" anytime soon.

I was thinking about presenting at a conference in the USA in november, but the risks and abuse associated with entrance are now so high, it's out of the question. The world can no longer center on the USA. The tr*mp administration seems to think they are inviolable, that they can solve every problem with the military. They'll be caught with their pants down. A $400 drone can now take out a $2B piece of equipment. Th…

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Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

#79
Amazing. Do you people understand that this is the most oppressive policy ever among any country?

In American movies dictatorships are portrayed as regimes that are able to control every aspect of their citizen's lives but in real life dictators don't do that. This is why there's the myth among the alt-right about how free Russia is. In real life, only the relevant people are bothered and the rest do whatever they want, say whatever they think. Just don't say it at the wrong place.

USA is going for the US style dystopia and the American dystopia is totalitarian.

I'm sure some will think "This is only for the foreigners, it makes sense to know what they are up to". Once you are done implementing it for foreigners you will want to know what citizens are up to because the rhetoric of these people is not only about the "dangerous aliens among us", they talk about traitor all the time. They will want to know who are those traitors to keep them from infiltrating key positions and you have all kind of traitors already. It's not just national traitor, it's also gender traitors, race traitor, language traitors, fiscal traitors, history traitors, religion traitors, traitor traitors.

The speed of US descending into darkness is scary.

Re: US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' for new visas

#80

This is only possible of you ignore decent security precautions and rarely use different user names. They are literally saying that only those who lie or have garbage security practices can get Visas.

> They are literally saying that only those who lie can get Visas.

Yes. And if everyone with a visa has lied on their application, anyone with a visa can be deported at any time when it becomes convenient.

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