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Re: I can't make this stuff up

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post #142

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I'm not afraid to say that on iOS, the "jail" makes the experience better for me. The entire iOS is amazing for what I need it for and for what many people need it for. I'm happy to pay the higher price because there's no other product that can substitute for the experience. I don't care about the "jail". If this is a jail then lock me up for life because it's a damn nice jail. OSX on the other hand isn't a jail. You…

OSX on the other hand isn't a jail. You can install whatever you want. It's a computer. As long as your credit card is on file with apple. You might be surprised what happens to 'your' computer after an attempted purchase fails for any reason. You won't be able to update or install any software from the app-store anymore. This includes updates for and re-downloads of apps that you have 'bought'.

Totally false. The app store is for people who want simplicity. It's for the consumer market. Those people who infect their computers with viruses constantly because they think that sketchy looking banner telling them they've won todays lottery isn't sketchy at all and click it.

There's nothing stopping me from downloading and installing any app I want from whatever source I want on my Mac. Everyone all of the sudden thinks that the Mac App Store is the final nail in the iOSification coffin but it isn't. It's just a good idea for people totally unlike us and those people actually get a far better experience than any "free" system because of it. But again, no one is forced to go through the app store to download applications.

Honestly, I haven't even set Mountain Lion to let me download anything unrestricted. I set it to the medium setting where it'll give me a warning before installing non-app store apps and I like it that way. I like being reminded that what I'm about to install hasn't been vetted by Apple. That's fine with me. I just control+click it and run it the first time and I'm never bothered again. Sure, I could set it so I get no hassles but I like the feature.

When it comes down to it, I know what I'm getting into. I'm not so completely risk averse that I refuse to use something because some worst case scenario or edge case might happen at some point down the road to me.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not afraid to say that on iOS, the "jail" makes the experience better for me. The entire iOS is amazing for what I need it for and for what many people need it for. I'm happy to pay the higher price because there's no other product that can substitute for the experience. I don't care about the "jail". If this is a jail then lock me up for life because it's a damn nice jail. OSX on the other hand isn't a jail. You…

OSX on the other hand isn't a jail. You can install whatever you want. It's a computer. As long as your credit card is on file with apple. You might be surprised what happens to 'your' computer after an attempted purchase fails for any reason. You won't be able to update or install any software from the app-store anymore. This includes updates for and re-downloads of apps that you have 'bought'.

That argument only applies to the Mac App Store, which is still getting mixed responses from users and devs.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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I find this (apparently fake) story interesting for the reaction that it created. I found it surprising (disturbing?) that anyone (even a fictional character) would equate losing a lawsuit for patent infringement with having an identical product. I was even for surprised reading through to comments on g+ to see how many were simply along the lines of "haha stoopid iPeons". As if they are dumb for having purchased an iProduct in the first place instead of the obviously identical but cheaper product from Samsung. Wat? I don't doubt the authors conjecture that some customers may have this odd reaction to the lawsuit, but why do so many people seem to think that it is a natural reaction to have?

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not afraid to say that on iOS, the "jail" makes the experience better for me. The entire iOS is amazing for what I need it for and for what many people need it for. I'm happy to pay the higher price because there's no other product that can substitute for the experience. I don't care about the "jail". If this is a jail then lock me up for life because it's a damn nice jail. OSX on the other hand isn't a jail. You…

OSX on the other hand isn't a jail. You can install whatever you want. It's a computer. As long as your credit card is on file with apple. You might be surprised what happens to 'your' computer after an attempted purchase fails for any reason. You won't be able to update or install any software from the app-store anymore. This includes updates for and re-downloads of apps that you have 'bought'.

Unbelievable. I've seen people struggling with Macs based on this sort of thing. The only Mac I own is pre-OSX, from the the good ole days. I'm aware the hoop jumping has worsened, but this is ridiculous.

I like freedom. I never used my old Mac for internet and I would not want to use a newer Mac (or iPad or iPhone) for that either.

For internet related usage I can get the same performance, and in fact much better performance, as anyone would from an Apple computer using BSD/Linux/Plan9.

If I want to do something that is heavily graphics intensive and requires a Mac (e.g. audio/video production), then I just switch to the Mac. I consider that "special purpose" computing.

But these days Apple is really aiming for the "general purpose" computer users, not just creative professionals.

No way would I agree to jump through hoops to do general purpose computing (email, web, multimedia playback, etc.). The old Macs were terribly slow and clumsy for agile internet usage and the new ones are no different. And now you have all these ridiculous anticompetitive hoops to jump through... just to run software!

Nothing beats freedom and flexibility. It's funny because those sound like Steve Jobs/aging hippie-type "ideals" (or "values", right Mr Cook?). But that old Apple, the one that told us to "Think different" and made interesting computers for creative professionals, seems long gone.

And it all started with a silly little MP3 player.

They ditched Motorola for Intel and now they sue their Asian suppliers in fear of competition. Competition for the general purpose computer user who just wants a computer that works. The one who shops on price. Sad.

Apple is the antithesis of creativity. They try to commoditise and control programmers, they try to prevent people from learning about programming and tinkering and they keep trying to pwn your music collection. Why the f- can't someone just have a drive full of sound files without Apple trying to assert control over it?

Apple will soon be shifting everything over to ARM. This is the future. But I think the creative people will already be building their own ARM computers by then. Screw Apple. They've lost the plot.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Even if this is a true story, it isn't the lawsuit that made people think this. What makes people think that Apple products and Samsung products are the same is the fact that Samsung intentionally ripped them off to get exactly that. Apple did not do this. Samsung did and the lawsuit was so they could stop it. If this story is true, which it kind of sounds like it isn't, then the only reason people are being vocal ab…

So apple's overly inflated prices on everything are defensible because they were copied?

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Even if this is a true story, it isn't the lawsuit that made people think this. What makes people think that Apple products and Samsung products are the same is the fact that Samsung intentionally ripped them off to get exactly that. Apple did not do this. Samsung did and the lawsuit was so they could stop it. If this story is true, which it kind of sounds like it isn't, then the only reason people are being vocal ab…

I always wonder if this is what they call the reality distortion effect. You get what you pay for? Long time ago I had an ibook g4. Supposedly it was very nice back then, and very pricey too. However, after playing with it sometime, it just looked cute. Overpriced and cute. Apple products are a jail that looks very nice, but its a jail anyway. Now I have an IPad (don't remember the generation) because my job. It is s…

The 'jail' is beneficial in that it allows high-quality apps to be made. If iOS users could just install apps from anywhere, piracy would mean a reduction in the quality and quantity of apps that developers are willing to make for it.

Even tech-savvy people buy iOS devices knowing that they are restricted in this way, and reap the benefits.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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post #44

I am skeptical that this is actually a true story and not a parable. The alleged regular people consumer statements do not ring true.

I chuckled when I read the part about starting the OSX virtual machine inside the Windows 7 host on the Samsung machine: "And it really is just the same. See, it even runs OS X!"

I know, right? Boy are those folks going to be disappointed when they bring home their new Samsung laptop and can't find the "OS/X" button.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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post #60

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What is a power user of a mobile phone, and what makes a 3.5" screen unacceptable? edit: Ah, I see. Reading a lot. I actually read all of Guns, Germs, and Steel on my iPhone 4S earlier this year, and probably do an hour or two of reading on it a day in total. It's not necessarily an ideal experience, but it certainly isn't terrible. I'm looking forward to the rumored 4" screen on the upcoming The New iPhone, but I th…

A power user is a user who regularly browses the web. Browsing the web on a 4.65-inch 1280x720 screen is significantly better than browsing the web on a 3.5-inch 960x640 screen. Reply to your edit: The fact that Android phones have low pixel density is absolutely wrong. That used to be the case. But now they have both larger screens and more pixels. Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, HTC One X, Xperia S all have 1280x720 scree…

The 3.5" screen is better for me because it easily fits in any pocket, so I always have it with me, and the battery easily lasts all day even with heavy web browsing.
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