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Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by yencabulator »

const_cast wrote: post #70
yencabulator wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you already know what "compositor" means in this context. > Modern compositor with the looks > Hyprland provides the latest Wayland features, dynamic tiling, all the eyecandy, powerful plugins and much more, while still being lightweight and responsive

If you're in the market for a Wayland compositor you should know what compositor means. If you're not in the market for a Wayland compositor then I can't imagine you'd ever need to know anything about hyprland.

Imagine if you will a site where links are shared amongst a very tech-heavy audience. I for one think it's reasonable for the average HN reader to understand the sites linked to.

"If you don't understand it, you don't belong" is a crap attitude. They wanted to learn, if they didn't they wouldn't be asking what it means. What happened to good writing?

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by const_cast »

yencabulator wrote: post #71
const_cast wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're in the market for a Wayland compositor you should know what compositor means. If you're not in the market for a Wayland compositor then I can't imagine you'd ever need to know anything about hyprland.

Imagine if you will a site where links are shared amongst a very tech-heavy audience. I for one think it's reasonable for the average HN reader to understand the sites linked to. "If you don't understand it, you don't belong" is a crap attitude. They wanted to learn, if they didn't they wouldn't be asking what it means. What happened to good writing?

It's not about being tech-heavy, it's about specifically running a Linux desktop on a distribution where you're running a very modern software stack, and you're not using a bundled desktop, so you're in the market for a compositor built for Wayland.

That's just a very specific usecase. You can be extremely tech-heavy but if you run Windows then this wouldn't matter to you.

I'm a very tech-heavy guy, and no, I don't understand everything linked on HN because it's just outside of my scope. Anything with Mac OS? Couldn't tell you.

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by yencabulator »

const_cast wrote: post #72
yencabulator wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine if you will a site where links are shared amongst a very tech-heavy audience. I for one think it's reasonable for the average HN reader to understand the sites linked to. "If you don't understand it, you don't belong" is a crap attitude. They wanted to learn, if they didn't they wouldn't be asking what it means. What happened to good writing?

It's not about being tech-heavy, it's about specifically running a Linux desktop on a distribution where you're running a very modern software stack, and you're not using a bundled desktop, so you're in the market for a compositor built for Wayland. That's just a very specific usecase. You can be extremely tech-heavy but if you run Windows then this wouldn't matter to you. I'm a very tech-heavy guy, and no, I don't u…

That's my point. If given a link to a random article about macOS details, I expect to be able to identify it as such, and not just be completely baffled. As a macOS user looking at the Hyprland page, you won't even know if it's meant for macOS, Windows, Linux, Android -- even the idea that it's software is only by implication.

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by Waterluvian »

Akronymus wrote: post #41
Waterluvian wrote: post #26

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There’s got to be a term for this given how I see it daily: when experts are so hyper focused that they’re not even aware they might have to at least indicate what a compositor even is. I think a common response is that if you don’t know, you’re not the audience anyways. But that lops off your customer funnel and limits the general awareness of your product. You want to bring everyone one step closer to your product…

average familiarity [1] comes to mind. 1 https://xkcd.com/2501/

That’s perfect.

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by arguflow »

yencabulator wrote: post #67
arguflow wrote: post #13

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Tiling window managers on Wayland still are pretty early sadly.

I've been using Niri for a solid year, it's been great. https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri

Yeah I'm in the element chat of that. They are still pretty early.

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by skeptrune »

arguflow wrote: post #9

There needs to be more opinionated / zero configuration setups in the Linux desktop space. The PopOS! tiling mode is miles easier to setup. Ghostty's popularity also seems to hit on those developers. I really hope that Hyprand premium does magic with those insights.

+1 for the COSMIC tiling system

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by ac130kz »

hd4 wrote: post #10

I've been using hyprland for about 6 months now, it's undeniably performant, buttery-smooth even but there are still a lot of paper cuts there - I have a feeling this will piss quite a few people off given the temperament in the Linux community for subscription-based software; also feel like it's not really the smartest thing to do if good alternatives already exist for what you're building (sway is not far off in qu…

It's hasn't been performant for me all the 3 times I've tried. It kept chugging an entire CPU core. Never had a similar experience with Sway, it's still extremely responsive and light on the system (especially with Vulkan).

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by mnmalst »

throwing_away wrote: post #61

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with the linux desktop space: Hyprland is a "wayland compositor" (roughly analogous to an X Window Manager) that is under active community development: https://hypr.land Wayland is considered the future of the linux desktop and is what projects like Valve's SteamDeck are using: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope It's known that Hyprland Premium is going to include a bunch of…

Never heard of quickshell, that looks impressive.

Re: Hyprland Premium

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Post by CoolCold »

WD-42 wrote: post #4

This is the only DE/WM I have ever heard of having "premium" features. I don't have a problem with the developers trying to bring in some funding but this is bizarre. I predict there is around a 0% chance that someone won't fork hyprland and implement the premium features themselves. Especially in this scene.

AFAIR, Aston Shell (for Windows) had free/premium editions
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