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Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by bornhuetter »

victorbstan wrote: post #7

This is a perfect example of judging a book by the cover. So these folks look at the device and think that the hardware is what makes it. Problem is, either you realize that it's about the software and you care what iOS and the Apple ecosystem gives you, or you're just an average Joe PC user who can't tell the difference between a good coffee and Starbucks, I mean between Windows and Mac. Regular people, with very li…

There are some things that are better about PCs and some things that are better about Macs. Same with Android and iOS. To put it bluntly if you think otherwise you are an uninformed, brainwashed idiot.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by delllapssuck »

taligent wrote: post #30
delllapssuck wrote: post #5

Beautiful. For Apple, it's all about controlling the minds of consumers. And controlling their access to information about the devices. For Samsung, it's less about that and more about plain old lack of interoperability: proprietary plugs, crappy Windows proprietary "install" software that was written hastily, and other little annoyances, stuff that will only work with Samsung. Like every other Asian manufacturer for…

Well this is odd. You do know that other companies beside Samsung make components and thinking that Samsung is keeping Apple afloat is pure and utter delusion.

Yes, I know that. Samsung is one company among many. For example, in the first iPods (which kicked off this insane run Apple is having), they relied on Toshiba for the drives.

I also know that thinking Apple would be able to stay afloat if they did not use manufacturers in Asia, such as Samsung, is "utter delusion". Is that what you're suggesting?

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by evilduck »

othermaciej wrote: post #32

I am skeptical that this is actually a true story and not a parable. The alleged regular people consumer statements do not ring true.

Also, he shows off a "OS/X" [sic] virtual machine to convince laymen that Apple's overcharging because you can run OSX in a VM. This is clearly a guy fabricating a story. Anyone who's ever virtualized OSX outside of VMWare Fusion will tell you this line is bullshit and would never offer that as a legitimate substitute for the real OSX desktop experience. Even legit OSX VMs on Fusion perform worse than their natively installed counterparts (GPU drivers just aren't very robust).

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by lloeki »

othermaciej wrote: post #32

I am skeptical that this is actually a true story and not a parable. The alleged regular people consumer statements do not ring true.

I chuckled when I read the part about starting the OSX virtual machine inside the Windows 7 host on the Samsung machine:

"And it really is just the same. See, it even runs OS X!"

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by firat »

othermaciej wrote: post #32

I am skeptical that this is actually a true story and not a parable. The alleged regular people consumer statements do not ring true.

I am already considering to drop OS X after the lawsuit, but I only read 2 paragraphs before I decided to look for this comment in HN before reading further.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by rohanpai »

lloeki wrote: post #44
othermaciej wrote: post #32

I am skeptical that this is actually a true story and not a parable. The alleged regular people consumer statements do not ring true.

I chuckled when I read the part about starting the OSX virtual machine inside the Windows 7 host on the Samsung machine: "And it really is just the same. See, it even runs OS X!"

I successfully installed OS X on virtual box. You cannot update it. It is therefore useless for developing iPhone Applications since XCode cannot be updated unless OS is updated.

Agreed that it's not the same experience. Very slow/laggy.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by bpatrianakos »

Even if this is a true story, it isn't the lawsuit that made people think this. What makes people think that Apple products and Samsung products are the same is the fact that Samsung intentionally ripped them off to get exactly that. Apple did not do this. Samsung did and the lawsuit was so they could stop it. If this story is true, which it kind of sounds like it isn't, then the only reason people are being vocal about it is because of the news. They're now comparing the two side by side and saying "hey, they look the same so they must be like the same thing". Up until about two months ago I was dirt poor (as in I only ate once a day, if that) and my experience with Apple products has been then you definitely get what you pay for in a good way which is why I have bought so many despite my door poor-ness. Samsung making their products look like Apple's was meant so people like me (minus the tech savviness) would buy them thinking they'll get the same thing. You really don't.

But I digress. This post has it wrong. What he supposedly overheard in a Starbucks wasn't caused by the Apple v. Samsung ruling but was a direct result of what Samsung had been trying to do all along.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

phaus wrote: post #33
tedunangst wrote: post #20

Here's what's going to happen. These people will buy a Samsung device. And they will hate it. And then they will learn to never buy anything but Apple. Apple has, for a short bump in near term revenue, earned themselves a lot of lifetime customers.

Some people do hate Samsung products, and some people just hate Android in general. It may come as a shock to you, but in spite of this fact, there are actually tens of millions of people out there who prefer Android, Windows, and reasonably priced laptops. I bought a retina iPad because at the time I was in the market, it was the best tablet available. If I were going to get one today, it would be a close call betwe…

What is a power user of a mobile phone, and what makes a 3.5" screen unacceptable?

edit: Ah, I see. Reading a lot. I actually read all of Guns, Germs, and Steel on my iPhone 4S earlier this year, and probably do an hour or two of reading on it a day in total.

It's not necessarily an ideal experience, but it certainly isn't terrible. I'm looking forward to the rumored 4" screen on the upcoming The New iPhone, but I think that 4.5" and 5" are both way too big.

The impression I get is that most larger screens out there today don't pack in larger pixels, but instead just use bigger pixels. Ultimately, I'm more interested in the quality of the text than I am the total number of lines I can see at one time. For instance, before I got the retina screen-equipped iPad this year, I actually preferred reading on the iPhone to the iPad by a wide margin.

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