I can't make this stuff up • Hacker News Board

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by GFischer » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:18 PM UTC

saturdaysaint wrote: post #18

I am extremely skeptical that a lawsuit that few people are even aware of will have any effect on either company's brand image. A lot of Apple's products could be called "iconic" - people with little interest in technology differentiate between an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4. I'd be surprised if anyone could tell a Samsung from an HTC. A lawsuit isn't going to change that.

I agree that most people haven't heard much about the lawsuit, but saying "I'd be surprised if anyone could tell a Samsung from an HTC" surely only applies to your acquaintaces.

Here in Uruguay they definitely will - and it is Samsung phones which sell the most, by far (we're very price sensitive which is a nicer word for poor :P ).

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by othermaciej » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:20 PM UTC

I am skeptical that this is actually a true story and not a parable. The alleged regular people consumer statements do not ring true.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by phaus » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:20 PM UTC

tedunangst wrote: post #20

Here's what's going to happen. These people will buy a Samsung device. And they will hate it. And then they will learn to never buy anything but Apple. Apple has, for a short bump in near term revenue, earned themselves a lot of lifetime customers.

Some people do hate Samsung products, and some people just hate Android in general. It may come as a shock to you, but in spite of this fact, there are actually tens of millions of people out there who prefer Android, Windows, and reasonably priced laptops.

I bought a retina iPad because at the time I was in the market, it was the best tablet available. If I were going to get one today, it would be a close call between the iPad and the galaxy note 10.1. As far as phones go, Apple has neglected the trend towards larger screens. For a power user, the Iphone's tiny screen is unacceptable. I recently purchased a Galaxy Nexus, and it's easily the best phone I've ever used, at a better price than an off contract iPhone.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by nateabele » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:21 PM UTC

saturdaysaint wrote: post #18

I am extremely skeptical that a lawsuit that few people are even aware of will have any effect on either company's brand image. A lot of Apple's products could be called "iconic" - people with little interest in technology differentiate between an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4. I'd be surprised if anyone could tell a Samsung from an HTC. A lawsuit isn't going to change that.

Well, enough people have heard about it that it's made the front page of a newspaper, so people are bound to talk about it.

And indeed, Apple's products are iconic, but these are normal people we're talking about. I wouldn't put it past them.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by objclxt » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:22 PM UTC

lines wrote: post #6

The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 costs $100 less than the latest iPad, and the same as the iPad 2. May I assume that "Samsung's iPad" in this case was actually a seven inch model, and a blatantly unfair comparison? edit: not to mention that the value of OS X is part of tw cost of MacBooks; running it in a VM on another OS is common, but unfair to portray to random people as a legitimate action as evidence that Apple is…

I think you are probably safe to assume that. Clearly the guy writing this is coming from one particular side of the argument. I really couldn't care one way or the other - I like my iPhone, but if a Galaxy is going to make you happier go buy it.

However, don't discount the other side of the price argument. For some people price will be an important factor - however, as the iPod showed, it's not necessarily the main consideration for all consumers.

I had a discussion about a year ago with someone from Samsung - "look", he said, "the problem is this: our phones cost basically the same to make as Apple's phones, but the average consumer thinks that the iPhone is worth more than a Galaxy". Samsung would probably quite like to charge as much for a Galaxy S3 as Apple do for an iPhone 4S. In some markets and territories this actually happens.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by kmfrk » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:23 PM UTC

jdq wrote: post #29

Everything about the story reads like it was fabricated.

The title implies that it was indeed deliberately fashioned by someone.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by joering2 » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:24 PM UTC

greenwalls wrote: post #28

A Pro-Google Android Zealot writes a story on Google Plus about people switching from Apple to Samsung due to a patent lawsuit and you all believe it? I guess there really is a sucker born every minute. Check Apple's earnings later to see who was right.

In addition, I am at Starbucks once a day, at least. Never seen people so damn eager to talk with strangers, which makes this story even more.... "amazing"? :)

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by objclxt » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:26 PM UTC

nateabele wrote: post #34

saturdaysaint wrote: post #18

I am extremely skeptical that a lawsuit that few people are even aware of will have any effect on either company's brand image. A lot of Apple's products could be called "iconic" - people with little interest in technology differentiate between an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4. I'd be surprised if anyone could tell a Samsung from an HTC. A lawsuit isn't going to change that.

Well, enough people have heard about it that it's made the front page of a newspaper, so people are bound to talk about it. And indeed, Apple's products are iconic, but these are normal people we're talking about. I wouldn't put it past them.

Totally anecdotal (but then again, so's the post we're all talking about here), but from talking to various non-technical people around the office a lot of people seem to think Samsung 'had it coming'. And let's not forget the jury found Samsung guilty, a jury that supposedly represents the common person.

So while we're all aghast at what's going on here it could be quite likely that a lot of people have sympathy with Apple...rightly or wrongly.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by viraptor » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:27 PM UTC

tedunangst wrote: post #20

Here's what's going to happen. These people will buy a Samsung device. And they will hate it. And then they will learn to never buy anything but Apple. Apple has, for a short bump in near term revenue, earned themselves a lot of lifetime customers.

I'm not sure if you're trolling, or just don't like the Samsung devices, but either way... no they won't. At least not all of them. I'm sure there's going to be a group not satisfied with Samsung. There are also groups not satisfied with Apple. Some of those people will say - hey, this was always annoying me in i$DEVICE, but here's it's better.

Why would you think everyone will hate it? (or even that they will have the same opinion, whatever it may be)

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by lloeki » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:27 PM UTC

xqyz wrote: post #24

pseudonym wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't consider 150 euro headphones to be high end, I'm scared to think where on the scale my $40 ones fall.

Clearly you haven't been to audiophile forums. 150 is pretty much entry level for those kind of people.

I'm no audiophile, yet I've been using a ~50€ Sennheiser for some time, and ever since I tried my girlfriend's ~250€ Beyerdynamics ("really, there can't be such a difference?") I can attest there's actually a world of difference between them, so much so that I consider ~100€ entry level now (the Sennheiser really sounds like crap).