I can't make this stuff up • Hacker News Board

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by xqyz » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:43 PM UTC

lines wrote: post #6

The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 costs $100 less than the latest iPad, and the same as the iPad 2. May I assume that "Samsung's iPad" in this case was actually a seven inch model, and a blatantly unfair comparison? edit: not to mention that the value of OS X is part of tw cost of MacBooks; running it in a VM on another OS is common, but unfair to portray to random people as a legitimate action as evidence that Apple is…

If it's non-technical people speaking about the differences between to technical things you can almost guarantee that they are trying to compare apples and oranges.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by jacktoole1 » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:45 PM UTC

chmars wrote: post #8

Google+ asks for my Google account password. Is there an alternate URL for this text?

http://pastebin.com/MZMfBrzd

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by joelrunyon » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:45 PM UTC

prostoalex wrote: post #3

Costumers are people in charge of costumes, right? I can't imagine Apple would have that many.

Yes, can we get the titled edited?

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by enos_feedler » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:46 PM UTC

Tim Cook specifically stated the reason they took action is in alignment with Apple's values, with innovation being the big one. Looking at the products Apple cranks out I don't think anyone can deny they value innovation (even if it means stealing along the way). They used the existing system in the best way they could in alignment with their core values, despite the fact it might confuse the customer, they lose sales etc, etc. Good for Apple.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by barik » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:47 PM UTC

chmars wrote: post #8

Google+ asks for my Google account password. Is there an alternate URL for this text?

It's a bit annoying, and you shouldn't have to do this, but you can read it in privacy mode within your browser (in which case you won't be asked to login). I have a somewhat orthogonal issue that requires this. My Google Apps administrator has disabled Google+, so it asks me for a login when accessing Google+ pages despite the fact that I won't actually be able to read the article even after logging in.

Fortunately, Google+ pages still show up rarely on HN.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by Tmmrn » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:48 PM UTC

victorbstan wrote: post #7

This is a perfect example of judging a book by the cover. So these folks look at the device and think that the hardware is what makes it. Problem is, either you realize that it's about the software and you care what iOS and the Apple ecosystem gives you, or you're just an average Joe PC user who can't tell the difference between a good coffee and Starbucks, I mean between Windows and Mac. Regular people, with very li…

> just like the PC fanatics revel in talking about how amazing Windows is,

Hm, let's see. You could probably say I am a PC fanatic. "Personal Computer". I don't really care if the PC is from Samsung, Dell, Lenovo or Apple. I don't think Windows is amazing. It's ok as long as it is supported by much 3rd party software. I personally would chose linux anytime I am not forced by some proprietary (quasi-) monopoly software to use a specific operating system.

> I still can't understand how these people think, and how they judge quality, I think for some people, mediocre is good enough.

I happen to use an android phone. It has some annoying bugs: A touchscreen that is activated in a pocket while receiving a call will sometimes behave very erratically. Sometimes (once every few months I get kernel panics [1], I think caused by the proprietary graphics drivers. But still the inconveniences are not that big that I would use some completely proprietary and locked down smartphone. If you think android phones are "mediocre" then maybe you are looking for the wrong qualities. Try comparing them with software freedom in mind and tell me how again the devices running android lose vs apple devices.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24118 (I don't use the galaxy nexus but it seems similar enough)

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by vasco » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:48 PM UTC

victorbstan wrote: post #7

This is a perfect example of judging a book by the cover. So these folks look at the device and think that the hardware is what makes it. Problem is, either you realize that it's about the software and you care what iOS and the Apple ecosystem gives you, or you're just an average Joe PC user who can't tell the difference between a good coffee and Starbucks, I mean between Windows and Mac. Regular people, with very li…

Average Joe PC user is the guy that fills Apple's pockets. And Samsung's for that matter.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by saturdaysaint » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 9:59 PM UTC

I am extremely skeptical that a lawsuit that few people are even aware of will have any effect on either company's brand image. A lot of Apple's products could be called "iconic" - people with little interest in technology differentiate between an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4. I'd be surprised if anyone could tell a Samsung from an HTC. A lawsuit isn't going to change that.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by stock_toaster » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:00 PM UTC

Sounds like a case of assumed "difference regret", where people (esp those who don't know much about the products they are choosing from) think they didn't get the best deal.

Re: I can't make this stuff up

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Post by tedunangst » Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:01 PM UTC

Here's what's going to happen. These people will buy a Samsung device. And they will hate it. And then they will learn to never buy anything but Apple. Apple has, for a short bump in near term revenue, earned themselves a lot of lifetime customers.