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Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

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I’m using Dia a lot for work at the moment and frankly it’s a gamechanger. granted I’m not a developer but being able to interact with an LLM that has access to the page I’m on is extremely useful:

Instead of manually hunting across half a dozen different elements, then copy/paste and retype to put something into a format I want…

I can just get Dia do it. In fact, I can create a shortcut to get it to do it the same way every single time. It’s the first time I’ve used something that actually feels like an extension of the web, instead of a new way to simply act on it at the surface level.

I think the obvious extension of that is agentic browsers. I can’t wait for this to get built to a standard where I can use it every day… But how well is it going to run on my 16GB M1 Pro?

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

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post #21

I’m using Dia a lot for work at the moment and frankly it’s a gamechanger. granted I’m not a developer but being able to interact with an LLM that has access to the page I’m on is extremely useful: Instead of manually hunting across half a dozen different elements, then copy/paste and retype to put something into a format I want… I can just get Dia do it. In fact, I can create a shortcut to get it to do it the same w…

16GB M1 Pro is good enough to run our browser! You should give it a try!

Download form https://www.nxtscape.ai/ or our github page.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

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post #22

I'll get voted down, but I hate that cute AI fox, and hope I never see it again.

Haha, used gpt4o to generate it. What change do you want to see in that fox appearance? Any change should be a prompt away :)

Why a fox? The browser is based on Chrome. Firefox basically owns having a fox as a mascot in the browser space. Why not pick something original? The fox confusing at best, but some may say misleading. Same goes for the name.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

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Name derived from Netscape (Firefox's great-grandfather), icon is a red fox, but based on Chrome? Was this originally designed as a Firefox fork or what happened there

Yeah. Regardless, it seems misleading to use that icon with a Chromium fork.

Also the fact that it's AGPL means this project is very copyleft and not compatible with business models.

I'm not saying that there is no place for copyleft open source anymore, but when it's in a clearly commercial project that makes me question the utility of it being open source.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#27

Very interesting approach. Why a browser, and not a fantastic chrome extension? Grouping tabs, summarizing, even taking open ended actions, seem very doable with permissions extensions have.. edit: Just read about the accessibility thing, but that's thin. Is there any usecase in the future that a browser can, but an extension can't?

> Is there any usecase in the future that a browser can, but an extension can't?

The only reason to use a browser over a chrome extension is to bypass security features, for example, trusted events. If a user wants the browser window to go to full screen or play a video, a physical mouse click or key press is required. Moreover, some websites do not want to be automated like ChatGPT web console and Chase.com which checks if the event was a trusted event before accepting a button click or key press. This means that a Chrome extension can not automate voice commands inferred with audio to text. However, to get a trusted event only requires the user to press a button, any button, so message or dialog prompt that says, "Press to go full screen," is all that is required. This can be down with a remote bluetooth keyboard also.

The way I see it, these limitations are in place for very, very good reasons and should not be bypassed. Moreover, there are much larger security issues using a agentic browser which is sending entire contents of a bank website or health records in a hospital patient portal to a third party server. It is possible to run OpenAI's whisper on webgpu on a Macbook Pro M3 but most text generation models over 300M will cause it to heat up enough to cook a steak. There are even bigger issues with potential prompt injection attacks from third party websites that know agentic browsers are visiting their sites.

The first step in mitigating these security vulnerabilities is preventing the automation from doing anything a Chrome extension can't already do. The second is blacklisting or opt in only allowing the agents to read and especially to write (fill in form is a write) any webpage without explicit permission. I've started to use VSCode's copilot for command line action and it works with permissions the same way such as only session only access.

I've already solved a lot of the problems associated with using a Chrome extension for agentic browser automation. I really would like to be having this conversation with people.

EDIT: I forgot the most important part. There are 3,500,000,000 Chrome users on Earth. Getting them to install a Chrome extension is much, much easier than getting them to install a new browser.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

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post #22

I'll get voted down, but I hate that cute AI fox, and hope I never see it again.

Haha, used gpt4o to generate it. What change do you want to see in that fox appearance? Any change should be a prompt away :)

It makes me question your honesty. If you want a fox logo then build it as a Firefox fork. If you do that I will trust you again.

Re: Show HN: Nxtscape – an open-source agentic browser

#29
post #14

What is with Mac users forking Chromium and then only making releases for Mac?

Haha, was easier to build and we were the first users :) have linux next on our radar. What build do you want?

FreeBSD, Haiku, Amiga
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