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I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

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Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

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post #9

This isn't everywhere. I live in Nashville and we have SO MUCH housing being built. Just apartment building after apartment building after apartment building.

Is any of it affordable for the median household income in your area? If so, that’s great!

Affordable housing is good, but building of housing of all types lowers housing prices for everyone[0]. Build it all!

[0]: https://research.upjohn.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1314...

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#42
How did homeless become homeless though?

1. They never had a home before so they kept living like that

2. They had a home before but then they couldn't afford it (or whatever other reason)

I doubt we have a lot of case 1 (born without a home). For case 2, I doubt building more homes work, because if you are homeless, that not only means that you can't afford buying a home, but you cannot afford renting one as well, and you are most likely jobless. I doubt building more homes are going to solve the issues. For case 2 you need more social housing and other support.

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#43

This isn't everywhere. I live in Nashville and we have SO MUCH housing being built. Just apartment building after apartment building after apartment building.

It is a big problem in Democratic states like California, where the leftists (Dean Preston and other leftist NIMBYs) have allied themselves with homeowner liberals to make it impossible to build housing.

Republican states like Texas do a significantly better job, as you can see by looking at annual per capita new housing, and lower rental inflation.

There's a growing liberal movement to change this status quo but they're still not that influential beyond rhetorical support from some Dems.

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#44

Is lack of enough homes the main reason for homelessness?

I think that's not necessarily the most important question. A more important one is "are more homes (dwellings) the easiest way to reduce homelessness?", and "do more dwellings reduce the number of rough sleepers?", to which the answer is "yes". During Covid lockdowns, the UK housed all street-homeless people at four days notice (other countries did this too). This was possible because of the sudden availability of h…

Was it mandatory to be out of the streets, police enforced? Were the hotels free for the homeless population? Trying to figure out whether it was the increase of availability only, or combined of forced housing/low price point.

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#45
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When more people are being priced out of a market than new housing units are added, then yeah they do need to be cheaper to make housing more available. The net result is more stratification, not less. Ask anyone how to make cheap housing though. No one has a convincing answer. I'm convinced that it's the right question.

Default on U.S. debt. A U.S. default would spike interest rates, crash bond markets, trigger a credit freeze, and destroy consumer confidence. Mortgages would become unaffordable. Mass foreclosures and job losses would crush demand. Asset fire sales would follow. Housing prices would collapse. This would also reshuffle assets, so speculators and highly leveraged people would be punished instead of being rewarded. It…

That's how you make existing housing cheap. That's not how you make new housing cheap. We still have a shortage.

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#46

How did homeless become homeless though? 1. They never had a home before so they kept living like that 2. They had a home before but then they couldn't afford it (or whatever other reason) I doubt we have a lot of case 1 (born without a home). For case 2, I doubt building more homes work, because if you are homeless, that not only means that you can't afford buying a home, but you cannot afford renting one as well, a…

There's probably almost 100 million Americans existing under rental stress. This prevents them from being able to save and invest. That means they have no insurance policy if they lose their job. If rent was lower, which it is in places that build more, then this is less likely to happen.

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#47

How did homeless become homeless though? 1. They never had a home before so they kept living like that 2. They had a home before but then they couldn't afford it (or whatever other reason) I doubt we have a lot of case 1 (born without a home). For case 2, I doubt building more homes work, because if you are homeless, that not only means that you can't afford buying a home, but you cannot afford renting one as well, a…

> For case 2, I doubt building more homes work, because if you are homeless, that not only means that you can't afford buying a home, but you cannot afford renting one as well, and you are most likely jobless.

It's not always all or nothing - sometimes you might be able to afford rent if rent were cheaper.

> For case 2 you need more social housing and other support.

"Build more homes" includes social aka public aka "affordable housing".

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#48

How did homeless become homeless though? 1. They never had a home before so they kept living like that 2. They had a home before but then they couldn't afford it (or whatever other reason) I doubt we have a lot of case 1 (born without a home). For case 2, I doubt building more homes work, because if you are homeless, that not only means that you can't afford buying a home, but you cannot afford renting one as well, a…

Luckily, your personal thoughts from first principles with zero review of the available data is not all we have to go on!

There is research[0] about causes of homelessness and about the effect[1] of house building on homelessness.

This is a well-studied issue, that, as the linked article likes to point out, people are just opposed to the solution for reasons of personal interest and (to me, bizzare) bias. Building houses reduces homelessness, increases supply for everyone, and lowers housing costs for everyone. It has no economic downsides, and significant personal upsides for everyone (cheaper housing and more options for you, dear reader).

[0]: https://homelessnesshousingproblem.com/ (taken from elsewhere in this thread) [1]: https://research.upjohn.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1314...

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#49
post #13

Homelesness exists in the US because it's comfortable to be homeless in a rich society. It is not always a result of choice, but so is living in a home. Still, I sincerely believe more people would choose to be homeless if they tried it, because there is nothing inherently bad in living in a tent if the climate allows it. It's just like tourism but with more amenities available due to urban infra + the stigma (that p…

>it's comfortable to be homeless in a rich society

Do you know this first hand? Have you tried it?

Re: I will do anything to end homelessness except build more homes (2018)

#50
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Default on U.S. debt. A U.S. default would spike interest rates, crash bond markets, trigger a credit freeze, and destroy consumer confidence. Mortgages would become unaffordable. Mass foreclosures and job losses would crush demand. Asset fire sales would follow. Housing prices would collapse. This would also reshuffle assets, so speculators and highly leveraged people would be punished instead of being rewarded. It…

That's how you make existing housing cheap. That's not how you make new housing cheap. We still have a shortage.

Myeah, not ideal, by logic it should make future housing even more expensive, as the USD weakens, so importing materials get more expensive.
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