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Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by jwblackwell »

sothatsit wrote: post #59

I find Karpathy's focus on tightening the feedback loop between LLMs and humans interesting, because I've found I am the happiest when I extend the loop instead. When I have tried to "pair program" with an LLM, I have found it incredibly tedious, and not that useful. The insights it gives me are not that great if I'm optimising for response speed, and it just frustrates me rather than letting me go faster. Worse, oft…

Yeah I am currently enjoying giving the LLM relatively small chunks of code to write and then asking it to write accompanying tests. While I focus on testing the product myself. I then don't even bother to read the code it's written most of the time

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by jph00 »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #39
nodesocket wrote: post #24

llms.txt makes a lot of sense, especially for LLMs to interact with http APIs autonomously. Seems like you could set a LLM loose and like the Google Bot have it start converting all html pages into llms.txt. Man, the future is crazy.

Couldn’t believe my eyes. The www is truly bankrupt. If anyone has a browser plugin which automatically redirects to llms.txt sign me up. Website too confusing for humans? Add more design, modals, newsletter pop ups, cookie banners, ads, … Website too confusing for LLMs? Add an accessible, clean, ad-free, concise, high entropy, plain text summary of your website. Make sure to hide it from the humans! PS: it should be…

The next version of the llms.txt proposal will allow an llms.txt file to be added at any level of a path, which isn't compatible with /.well-known.

(I'm the creator of the llms.txt proposal.)

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by jph00 »

practal wrote: post #42
nodesocket wrote: post #24

llms.txt makes a lot of sense, especially for LLMs to interact with http APIs autonomously. Seems like you could set a LLM loose and like the Google Bot have it start converting all html pages into llms.txt. Man, the future is crazy.

If you have different representations of the same thing (llms.txt / HTML), how do you know it is actually equivalent to each other? I am wondering if there are scenarios where webpage publishers would be interested in gaming this.

That's not what llms.txt is. You can just use a regular markdown URL or similar for that.

llms.txt is a description for an LLM of how to find the information on your site needed for an LLM to use your product or service effectively.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by jph00 »

sneak wrote: post #32

Can we please stop standardizing on putting things in the root? /.well-known/ exists for this purpose. example.com/.well-known/llms.txt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well-known_URI

You can't just put things there any time you want - the RFC requires that they go through a registration process.

Having said that, this won't work for llms.txt, since in the next version of the proposal they'll be allowed at any level of the path, not only the root.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by sothatsit »

geeunits wrote: post #70
sothatsit wrote: post #59

I find Karpathy's focus on tightening the feedback loop between LLMs and humans interesting, because I've found I am the happiest when I extend the loop instead. When I have tried to "pair program" with an LLM, I have found it incredibly tedious, and not that useful. The insights it gives me are not that great if I'm optimising for response speed, and it just frustrates me rather than letting me go faster. Worse, oft…

I would venture that 'tightening the feedback loop' isn't necessarily 'increasing the number of back and forth prompts'- and what you're saying you want is ultimately his argument. i.e. if integral enough it can almost guess what you're going to say next...

I specifically do not want AI as an auto-correct, doing auto-predictions while I am typing. I find this interrupts my thinking process, and I've never been bottlenecked by typing speed anyway.

I want AI as a "co-worker" providing an alternative perspective or implementing my specific instructions, and potentially filling in gaps I didn't think about in my prompt.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by nothrabannosir »

jph00 wrote: post #72
nothrabannosir wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn’t believe my eyes. The www is truly bankrupt. If anyone has a browser plugin which automatically redirects to llms.txt sign me up. Website too confusing for humans? Add more design, modals, newsletter pop ups, cookie banners, ads, … Website too confusing for LLMs? Add an accessible, clean, ad-free, concise, high entropy, plain text summary of your website. Make sure to hide it from the humans! PS: it should be…

The next version of the llms.txt proposal will allow an llms.txt file to be added at any level of a path, which isn't compatible with /.well-known. (I'm the creator of the llms.txt proposal.)

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Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by emseetech »

tock wrote: post #35
throwawayoldie wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm old enough to remember when Twitter was new, and for a moment it felt like the old utopian promise of the Internet finally fulfilled: ordinary people would be able to talk, one-on-one and unmediated, with other ordinary people across the world, and in the process we'd find out that we're all more similar than different and mainly want the same things out of life, leading to a new era of peace and empathy. It was…

I believe the opposite happened. People found out that there are huge groups of people with wildly differing views on morality from them and that just encouraged more hate. I genuinely think old school facebook where people only interacted with their own private friend circles is better.

Broadcast networks like Twitter only make sense for influencers, celebrities and people building a brand. They're a net negative for literally anyone else.

| old school facebook where people only interacted with their own private friend circles is better.

100% agree but crazy that option doesn't exist anymore.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by alightsoul »

why does vibe coding still involve any code at all? why can't an AI directly control the registers of a computer processor and graphics card, controlling a computer directly? why can't it draw on the screen directly, connected directly to the rows and columns of an LCD screen? what if an AI agent was implemented in hardware, with a processor for AI, a normal computer processor for logic, and a processor that correlates UI elements to touches on the screen? and a network card, some RAM for temporary stuff like UI elements and some persistent storage for vectors that represent UI elements and past converstations

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by dang »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #76
jph00 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next version of the llms.txt proposal will allow an llms.txt file to be added at any level of a path, which isn't compatible with /.well-known. (I'm the creator of the llms.txt proposal.)

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