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Apple Wins Patent Ruling As Jury Finds Samsung Infringes

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Re: Apple Wins Patent Ruling As Jury Finds Samsung Infringes

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

manaskarekar wrote: post #9
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

From: http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/ "No across the board. Not a single [patent] proven invalid by Samsung." that's big. edit: "Damages from Apple to Samsung: zero." (edit2: oops, dumb typo)

.. pile of poop? I haven't followed the case closely and leaving aside whether or not Samsung copied from Apple, we just all lost. Were there not a few prior art arguments and all that? Samsung couldn't invalidate any of those?! This is depressing.

Despite being an AAPL shareholder, I agree 100%.

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Post by bane »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

From: http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/ "No across the board. Not a single [patent] proven invalid by Samsung." that's big. edit: "Damages from Apple to Samsung: zero." (edit2: oops, dumb typo)

It's sickening. This case may significantly raise the bar for invalidating nonsense software patents in the future.

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Post by maayank »

lubos wrote: post #4

I was shocked to learn this case is basically being decided by people who have no idea what they are really deciding on. Here is the jury according to techcrunch 1. An electrical engineer 2. A homemaker 3. A construction worker 4. A young unemployed man who likes video games 5. An insurance agent 6. An ex-Navy avionics technician 7. A store operations manager for a cycling retailer 8. A project manager for wireless c…

Well, that's what "jury of one's peers" is all about, a broad spectrum of the population.

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Post by taligent »

lubos wrote: post #4

I was shocked to learn this case is basically being decided by people who have no idea what they are really deciding on. Here is the jury according to techcrunch 1. An electrical engineer 2. A homemaker 3. A construction worker 4. A young unemployed man who likes video games 5. An insurance agent 6. An ex-Navy avionics technician 7. A store operations manager for a cycling retailer 8. A project manager for wireless c…

What on earth are you talking about ?

Juries around the world are compromised of ordinary people.

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Post by alberich »

American patent system is weird. Why is it fair for someone to patent "what" you do, what should be fair to patent is "how" you make this thing viable (e.g. the algorithms used, or something like that)?

As long as you don't use the mechanisms of your competition, you should be allowed to mimic the features present on other competitors' devices.

Considering this, it seems clear that Samsung would lose the dispute anyway.

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Post by coryl »

lubos wrote: post #4

I was shocked to learn this case is basically being decided by people who have no idea what they are really deciding on. Here is the jury according to techcrunch 1. An electrical engineer 2. A homemaker 3. A construction worker 4. A young unemployed man who likes video games 5. An insurance agent 6. An ex-Navy avionics technician 7. A store operations manager for a cycling retailer 8. A project manager for wireless c…

Isn't that how a jury is suppose to work though? They're suppose to have as little bias as possible going into the case.

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Post by paranoiacblack »

programminggeek wrote: post #10

This is both unsurprising and somewhat meaningless as there will be an appeals process that will last for months and possibly years. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that Samsung made their products to look like Apple products. They changed their icon styles and other UI elements away from Android standards to match the Apple style. Some of the things Apple invented and patented on like pinch to zoom an…

> You just have to look at Windows Phone 7 or Windows 8 or Web OS or Blackberry to realize that you don't have to copy Apple to make a good or great smartphone.

Ok sure, but why did you cite a bunch of bad smartphones to validate your point?

Re: Apple Wins Patent Ruling As Jury Finds Samsung Infringes

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Post by taligent »

lazyoaf wrote: post #8
lubos wrote: post #4

I was shocked to learn this case is basically being decided by people who have no idea what they are really deciding on. Here is the jury according to techcrunch 1. An electrical engineer 2. A homemaker 3. A construction worker 4. A young unemployed man who likes video games 5. An insurance agent 6. An ex-Navy avionics technician 7. A store operations manager for a cycling retailer 8. A project manager for wireless c…

absolutely, shocking. The 'general' public are unlikely to grasp how complex this is and the future ramifications from their short and very limited time with the case.

What's shocking is your complete ignorance of how the legal system works.
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