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Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by potato3732842 »

nemomarx wrote: post #14
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

Call your elected representatives. Attend a protest. Make noise. Above all else, protect your family, friends, and neighbors. We do not have to sit back and let this happen.

they did just shoot two elected representatives so I think we're a little beyond protests working

Publicly they'll wring their hands and tell us a bunch of BS about how violence outside of the state is bad and whatnot but behind the scenes they'll go back to their research people and their focus groups and try and get to the bottom of whether it was just one crazy or an outlier who's of an existing trend in opinion they ought to care about. Same as they did when that CEO got shot.

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by garciasn »

nemomarx wrote: post #14
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

Call your elected representatives. Attend a protest. Make noise. Above all else, protect your family, friends, and neighbors. We do not have to sit back and let this happen.

they did just shoot two elected representatives so I think we're a little beyond protests working

When someone attempted to assassinate Trump would you have lumped all of those against Trump into "they"?

I don't support what the current administration is doing; not by a long shot. But to say, "they did just shoot two elected representatives," is disingenuous at best.

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Post by haswell »

nemomarx wrote: post #14
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

Call your elected representatives. Attend a protest. Make noise. Above all else, protect your family, friends, and neighbors. We do not have to sit back and let this happen.

they did just shoot two elected representatives so I think we're a little beyond protests working

The scale of the protests means the protests are already working. They’re as much about spreading awareness and mobilizing the voting public as they are about current events.

I don’t see a connection between their efficacy and what happened in Minnesota, which was an event that is arguably all the more reason to protest.

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by ars »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #19
potato3732842 wrote: post #13

The entire framing of this article fact that we don't even know the name of whoever he was trying to protect tells you a lot. Clearly we're not meant to be upset that fed-cops can behave this way generally, we're meant to be upset that they dared treat another agent of the state, a more equal animal, the way they'd treat a common peasant who got similarly uppity. Caring about these generalities is outside our lane.

> we're meant to be upset that they dared treat another agent of the state, I'm upset because a US citizen was arrested for asking a reasonable question to some government officials before complying with the government officials.

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Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

bigyabai wrote: post #8
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

Call your elected representatives. Attend a protest. Make noise. Above all else, protect your family, friends, and neighbors. We do not have to sit back and let this happen.

My elected representative gets (credible) death threats if they resist executive monarchy.

TBH, I want such reps to be loud about that. We need to stop pretending that the right is not leveraging stochastic terrorism. The problem doesn't go away by ignoring it.

Yes, that's risky. Some people might get hurt. A lot of people are being hurt, and will continue to be hurt, by the current situation. We all have to make our own choices about when principles and long-term outcomes outweigh our instinct for self preservation.

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Post by krapp »

NickC25 wrote: post #16
duxup wrote: post #4

The whole story of telling ICE agents to just go out and find people on their own seems like a setup to empower the executive branch to have their own group of thugs. Without guidance they do what want outside the judicial system and sensible oversight / rules. This seems to be a pattern in most non democratic countries...

That's the gameplan, it's written in detail in the Project 2025 outline...

But Trump pinky swore he wouldn't do a fascism!
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