Live data from Hacker News

Working on databases from prison

turso.tech

411–420 of 567 posts

Re: Working on databases from prison

#411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it not be reasonable?

Google feeds staff members and provides rest areas , why are they paid?

If my employer payed for my housing and food I would not consider it unreasonable that my paycheck reflected that.

> Why are they paid

Because people have expenses other than food and lodging. Prisoners do to, some save money for after they leave prison others spend it at the commissary.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#413
post #409
post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Sacklers are comfortably above the law and that's a bad thing, but that doesn't make small time carfentanyl operations any less bad Evil is a threshold, it's not a competition with limited spots Sometimes big crime families or notorious serial killers get away with it, but it doesn't lower the threshold for anyone else It doesn't make it any better that someone else is doing even worse. You don't get to do a litt…

Evil is a religious concept. Selling drugs isn't evil. Not selling drug doesn't make you good. People take drugs for various reasons. If a doctor sells them they are good but if someone else sells them they are evil? The person buying could have been fired and can't afford Doctors prescription so the person selling could be an angel.

A doctor that over-prescribes them would be arrested, too. Or one that prescribed it to someone for a non-medical reason. (There are many of those latter docs.)

People that sell fentanyl (or similar) are very bad for society, to avoid the triggering "evil". Look how many people have died in the last 10 years. It's insane.

EDIT: I personally know a young man that died from a fent overdose and it's likely he didn't know what he took had fent in it. 22 years old and the whole world ahead him. Completely destroyed his family.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#414
post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't you suppose that it's "fair" to request compensation for the room and board if the person is making a "fair" wage?

No. Prisons should cost society money. If you are taking away someone’s freedoms, there should be a high cost so you don’t do it flippantly when another solution will work.

Are you concerned that if you make prison too expensive society might resort to capital punishment to reduce prison costs? Or we end up releasing prisoners who are legitimate dangers to society.

And to be clear, I'm opposed to capital punishment and dangerous conditions in prisons. I'm just pointing out that I don't think your argument is very good. If you think we as a society are willing to flippantly put people in prison because it's cheap I don't see how you can trust us to no resort to other flippant measures if the cost was high.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#415
post #405
post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government takes a cut then too, both from the employer and employer, in the form of taxes.

Which should be paying for the prisons and the operations society approves of to reform inmates. Prisons should not be a businesses of any kind.

I agree that a prison should not be a business (aka a different model than the US-model). I also think that many prisoners are currently treated unfairly.

However, ideally, I don’t think that it makes sense for someone to go to prison, which costs tax money, and meanwhile earn the same amount of money by remote working from prison as someone in the outside world, who actually has living expenses to pay for (which get taxed also).

So, I think, when it comes to fairness, it wouldn’t be unreasonable if a partial cut goes to the TCOO of holding that prisoner.

Now again, American prisons have their whole incentive model messed up, so I don’t even want to get in an argument about America’s implementation of this system and how it would lead to more problems— because it’s well-known and more than expected.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#416
post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know. If you are in posession of enough of a controlled substance to kill 300 people I'm kind of okay with a drastic response. For every Preston Thorpe who turns their life around there 100s of others who will just go out and keep endangering lives like this. I think this is a nuanced topic and 10-30 years is too much for drug possession is entirely lacking the necessary nuance to evaluate. Comparison to othe…

[flagged]

Decriminalization in Portugal and in Oregon ended up in disasters. Resulted in more drug addicts, more violent crime, more crazy behaviors, more people laying or crawling in the streets.

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/the-hard-drug-decrimina...

Re: Working on databases from prison

#417
post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't you suppose that it's "fair" to request compensation for the room and board if the person is making a "fair" wage?

Forced room and board?

To be honest, if he didn't pay a cut of his earnings while living off government allocated funds, wouldn't that put him in a better position than those who haven't been found guilty and sentenced for breaking the laws of the land in which they reside? I can't see a much resistance to the argument that they one really ought to pay the full cost back to the state, as with community service... no?

Re: Working on databases from prison

#418
post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing. Absolutely insane that people are incarcerated so long for non-violent drug crimes, though. Turso also looks really neat for small Payload sites.

Say that to the people he killed selling those drugs. This isn't weed, it's highly lethal pills.

Any yet there are coke-cola machines everywhere including inside police stations which kills more people each year.

And only one company is allowed to import the specific leaves/material (coca leafs). The government restricts everyone from importing them unless it's one of the biggest companies in the world.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#420
post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He played a lot smaller part than the Sackler family, who ran Purdue Pharma and pushed their drugs into communities. They killed a lot more people than this guy, and yet none of them are in jail.

Whataboutism. Selling the drug he was peddling kills people. Lots of people. This is not a “no victims” crime. EDIT: another commentor found that it was MDMA and weed, so this discussion is purely theoretical and doesn’t apply to OP.

MDMA and weed was his initial sentence. He's in prison now for selling synthetic opioids.
Post reply on HN