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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by exhilaration »

dylan604 wrote: post #114
RajT88 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was going to go on a cruise, I'd probably bring with my linux laptop for capturing WPA handshakes, and then use the 15 minutes to set up jobs for Hashcat to burn through on my gaming PC at home. There is A LOT of AP's on cruise ships. Odds are a few are crackable.

If I were going on a cruise, I could think of many much better use of my time than cracking APs. This just seems like you're doing cruising wrong if you're so concerned about it that this is where you want to take your experience

Sir, this is Hacker News.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

dylan604 wrote: post #113
ryandrake wrote: post #21

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Yea, I'd think something like onboard Internet is something set up once for the ship, and then basically forgotten about as long as the overall revenue is above some "reasonable" threshold given the number of passengers. Ain't no security team sitting there monitoring user registration metrics in real-time looking for fraud. At best, they might pull logs every quarter to look for vulnerabilities like this to close.

Why would someone in corporate IT responsible for this not ask Claude to write a script that does this on a much more frequent basis? That person might get a nice attaboi for it, but much less likely an actual bonus for it. Although, I can't imagine they are losing too much money on each cruise from this hack unless the next DefCon is on a cruise ship. Then realizing that 0 passengers signed up for WiFi might seem st…

> Why would someone in corporate IT responsible for this not ask Claude to write a script that does this on a much more frequent basis

Because they have nine trillion bugs in their booking system that have been on backlog since 1910.

According to this source [1] (of dubious quality, granted) Royal Caribbean's entire IT department is about 140 people headed by an electrical engineer.

[1] https://rocketreach.co/royal-caribbean-cruises-ltd-it-depart...

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by gwbas1c »

Just need to point out: A cruise is a ^%$^#$ expensive vacation. For me, part of vacation is focusing on the moment, place, and people that I'm with. Cruises have plenty of entertainment onboard, so if you feel the need to do something like this to save a buck, maybe take a deep breath and try to take advantage of what's already there for your entertainment.

If I ever take advantage of this hack... It'll be to download an extra book or two to my Kindle. My wife and I took a honeymoon in a remote area and mostly used our devices to take pictures and read books while at a beach.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by LtWorf »

tossandthrow wrote: post #20
dale_huevo wrote: post #12

One of the fringe benefits of going on a cruise is that you can disconnect from the Internet for a week. Hit up the bar, make love to your wife, gamble a bit. All without your phone constantly buzzing in your pocket. If you go on a cruise to immediately open your laptop it seems like a waste of time and money.

Unless you are on a cruise to work remotely and flee soaring rental prices.

There is no way that a cruise is cheaper.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by dylan604 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #132
dylan604 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would someone in corporate IT responsible for this not ask Claude to write a script that does this on a much more frequent basis? That person might get a nice attaboi for it, but much less likely an actual bonus for it. Although, I can't imagine they are losing too much money on each cruise from this hack unless the next DefCon is on a cruise ship. Then realizing that 0 passengers signed up for WiFi might seem st…

> Why would someone in corporate IT responsible for this not ask Claude to write a script that does this on a much more frequent basis Because they have nine trillion bugs in their booking system that have been on backlog since 1910. According to this source [1] (of dubious quality, granted) Royal Caribbean's entire IT department is about 140 people headed by an electrical engineer. [1] https://rocketreach.co/royal-c…

That's even more reason to have LLMs do their work for them, not less.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by dylan604 »

exhilaration wrote: post #131
dylan604 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were going on a cruise, I could think of many much better use of my time than cracking APs. This just seems like you're doing cruising wrong if you're so concerned about it that this is where you want to take your experience

Sir, this is Hacker News.

Right, but even HN peeps need a vacay

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by Fergusonb »

gwbas1c wrote: post #133

Just need to point out: A cruise is a ^%$^#$ expensive vacation. For me, part of vacation is focusing on the moment, place, and people that I'm with. Cruises have plenty of entertainment onboard, so if you feel the need to do something like this to save a buck, maybe take a deep breath and try to take advantage of what's already there for your entertainment. If I ever take advantage of this hack... It'll be to downlo…

The author implies they're a highschool aged programmer. They're likely along for the ride with their parents and very online. I'd probably do the same thing at their age.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Post by Dylan16807 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #18
isawczuk wrote: post #8

I was watching some cruise crew videos, and it turns out their biggest expense is internet. I'm curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs and maybe sell to guests some "piracy" internet?

> curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs Cruise ships are tiny cities. The density overloads Starlink.

Starlink can do half a gigabit per beam and point 8 beams at the same cell.

With 5000 people on a ship, that's enough bandwidth for half of them to watch HD video at the same time.

On land they want to spread out the bandwidth as much as possible, but on the ocean most cells are empty or only need a time share fraction of a beam, so they might as well focus on those mini cities.

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