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Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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Re: Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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The experiment looked to be the other way around. If you introduced new microbiota from patients with SAD this caused SAD in mice. So introducing new microbiota won’t solve the problem. The theory that needs to be tested is that we know microbiota can switch SAD on, but does removal of said microbiota turn it off? It needs to be an antibiotic cleansing. It can even be DIY. People can try this on themselves. I think t…

Do we get gut bacteria from the people around us? Where does a newborn get their gut bacteria from?

The entry point to the gut is from the mouth so because of that, I think food is where most of the gut bacteria comes from.

Re: Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The experiment looked to be the other way around. If you introduced new microbiota from patients with SAD this caused SAD in mice. So introducing new microbiota won’t solve the problem. The theory that needs to be tested is that we know microbiota can switch SAD on, but does removal of said microbiota turn it off? It needs to be an antibiotic cleansing. It can even be DIY. People can try this on themselves. I think t…

Do we get gut bacteria from the people around us? Where does a newborn get their gut bacteria from?

we can from kissing

Re: Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The experiment looked to be the other way around. If you introduced new microbiota from patients with SAD this caused SAD in mice. So introducing new microbiota won’t solve the problem. The theory that needs to be tested is that we know microbiota can switch SAD on, but does removal of said microbiota turn it off? It needs to be an antibiotic cleansing. It can even be DIY. People can try this on themselves. I think t…

Do we get gut bacteria from the people around us? Where does a newborn get their gut bacteria from?

It's not just food as many commenters are pointing out. It could be from what people are drinking, even water, if oral delivery is not sanitized.

Re: Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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I think it makes sense that our microbiome should be able to trigger such a response. If your microbiome is changing, it means that some microbe is gaining numbers it didn't previously have, and your current bodily functions, such as your immune system, aren't stopping it. That doesn't necessarily mean your immune system is compromised, but if it is then it would probably be good not to spend a lot of time around other individuals, especially large groups or strangers. Other reasons for your microbiome to be shifting, like a sudden change in diet or enviroment, could also be indicative of an issue like food shortages or territorial change where it would also be good to minimize your exposure to and reliance on others. Finally, depending on what exactly is gaining a foothold, you could potentially be a threat to your kin if you come around them. Developing a social fear response to certain changes in gut microbiome could thus be quite beneficial for most social creatures.

Re: Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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I think it makes sense that our microbiome should be able to trigger such a response. If your microbiome is changing, it means that some microbe is gaining numbers it didn't previously have, and your current bodily functions, such as your immune system, aren't stopping it. That doesn't necessarily mean your immune system is compromised, but if it is then it would probably be good not to spend a lot of time around oth…

Beneficial for the group, not the individual, I suppose.

Re: Social anxiety disorder-associated gut microbiota increases social fear

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I've seen probiotic supplements that have strains that claim to help with anxiety and depression, but I've never really looked into them because I'm quite skeptical they do anything. But if anyone is familiar with them and has any feedback I'd be interested to hear it.
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