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Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by sorcerer-mar »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #26
WXLCKNO wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying every flavor of AI powered development and after trying Claude Code for two days with an API key, I upgraded to the full Max 20x plan. Cursor, Windsurf, Roo Code / Cline, they're fine but nothing feels as thorough and useful to me as Claude Code. The Codex CLI from OpenAI is not bad either, there's just something satisfying about the LLM straight up using the CLI

hey can you explain the appeal of Claude Code vs Cursor? I know the context window part and Cursor RAG-ing it, but isn't IDE integration a a true force multiplier? Or does Claude Code do something similar with "send to chat" / smart (Cursor's TAB feature) autocomplete etc.? I fired it up but it seemed like just Claude in terminal with a lot more manual copy-pasting expected? I tried all the usual suspects in AI-assis…

> I fired it up but it seemed like just Claude in terminal with a lot more manual copy-pasting expected?

You should never have to copy/paste something from Claude Code...?

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by zozbot234 »

leetrout wrote: post #4

Anthropic warns unemployment is a serious risk. Nvidia has an inflated stock and knows how to play the game so of course they deny any such thing with a view not much past the next quarterly earnings call. No surprises here.

Unemployment will be a serious risk indeed once the current AI bubble bursts and we enter a new economic downturn. As it is, AI-generated unemployment is just FUD.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by sorcerer-mar »

KerrAvon wrote: post #23
levocardia wrote: post #14

Nvidia is also very mad about Anthropic's advocacy for chip export controls, which is not mentioned in this article. Dario has an entire blog post explaining why preventing China from getting Nvidia's top of the line chips is a critical national security issue, and Jensen is, at least by his public statements, furious about the export controls. As it currently stands, Anthropic is winning in terms of what the actual…

Jensen is right, though. If we force China to develop their own technology they’ll do that! We don’t have a monopoly on talent or resources. The US can have a stake at the table or nothing at all. The time when we, the US, could do protectionism without shooting ourselves in the foot is well and truly over. The most we can do is inconvenience China in the short term.

Should we also give them the plans for all of our military equipment then, by the same logic?

Neither side is obviously right.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by mistrial9 »

pepinator wrote: post #29
scuol wrote: post #15

Just this morning, I had Claude come up with a C++ solution that would have undefined behavior that even a mid-level C++ dev could have easily caught (assuming iterator stability in a vector that was being modified) just by reading the code. These AI solutions are great, but I have yet to see any solution that makes me fear for my career. It just seems pretty clear that no LLM actually has a "mental model" of how thi…

This is where one can notice that LLM are, after all, just stochastic parrots. If we don't have a reliable way to systematically test their outputs, I don't see many jobs being replaced by AI either.

> just stochastic parrots

this is flatly false for two reasons -- one is that all LLMs are not equal. The models and capacities are quite different, by design. Secondly a large number of standardized LLM testing, tests for sequence of logic or other "reasoning" capacity. Stating the fallacy of stochastic parrots is basically proof of not looking at the battery of standardized tests that are common in LLM development.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by bearjaws »

pixl97 wrote: post #30
fmbb wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have only been selling our labor for a couple of hundred years. Humanity has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. We will manage. Hey, we can always eat the rich!

"Dinosaurs have been around 100 million years and they will be around 100 million more" --Dinosaurs 65.1 million years ago.

Pretty bad example, maybe something more like "Horses have been working for thousands of years -- horse in 1927".

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by syspec »

I use Claud Opus 4, and it's pretty good at writing code. For very common languages.

It makes a lot of mistakes in its own code, trivial ones, like creating functions and calling them with the arguments reversed.

The idea that it's going to blackmail me somehow by showing me what /looks/ like an email, sounds laughable.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by zozbot234 »

kbos87 wrote: post #19

Companies like Nvidia and OpenAI base their answers to any questions on economic risk on their own best interests and a pretty short view of history. They are fighting like hell to make sure they are among a small set of winners while waving away the risk or claiming that there's some better future for the majority of people on the other side of all this. To claim that all of the benefit isn't going to naturally accr…

"Massive disruption" of what kind? Current AI abilities make white-collar work more productive and potentially higher-paid, not less.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by fassssst »

scuol wrote: post #15

Just this morning, I had Claude come up with a C++ solution that would have undefined behavior that even a mid-level C++ dev could have easily caught (assuming iterator stability in a vector that was being modified) just by reading the code. These AI solutions are great, but I have yet to see any solution that makes me fear for my career. It just seems pretty clear that no LLM actually has a "mental model" of how thi…

It’s another league for JS and python, yes.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by kbos87 »

zozbot234 wrote: post #47
kbos87 wrote: post #19

Companies like Nvidia and OpenAI base their answers to any questions on economic risk on their own best interests and a pretty short view of history. They are fighting like hell to make sure they are among a small set of winners while waving away the risk or claiming that there's some better future for the majority of people on the other side of all this. To claim that all of the benefit isn't going to naturally accr…

"Massive disruption" of what kind? Current AI abilities make white-collar work more productive and potentially higher-paid, not less.

Why would my employer pay me more for using their AI? I am already massively more productive at work using AI. I'm not getting paid more, and I'm not working fewer hours. The road we are headed down is one where all of the economic benefits go straight to the owning class.

Re: Nvidia CEO criticizes Anthropic boss over his statements on AI

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Post by JoeMattie »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #26
WXLCKNO wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying every flavor of AI powered development and after trying Claude Code for two days with an API key, I upgraded to the full Max 20x plan. Cursor, Windsurf, Roo Code / Cline, they're fine but nothing feels as thorough and useful to me as Claude Code. The Codex CLI from OpenAI is not bad either, there's just something satisfying about the LLM straight up using the CLI

hey can you explain the appeal of Claude Code vs Cursor? I know the context window part and Cursor RAG-ing it, but isn't IDE integration a a true force multiplier? Or does Claude Code do something similar with "send to chat" / smart (Cursor's TAB feature) autocomplete etc.? I fired it up but it seemed like just Claude in terminal with a lot more manual copy-pasting expected? I tried all the usual suspects in AI-assis…

I would also like to know this. I've only very briefly looked into Claude code and I may just not understand how I'm supposed to be using it.

I currently use cursor with Claude 4 Sonnet (thinking) in agent mode and it is absolutely crushing it.

Last night i had it refactor some Django / react / vite / Postgres code for me to speed up data loading over websocket and it managed to:

- add binary websocket support via a custom hook - added missing indexes to the model - clean up the data structure of the payload - add messagepack and gzip compression - document everything it did - add caching - write tests - write and use scripts while doing the optimizations to verify that the approaches it was attempting actually sped up the transfer

All entirely unattended. I just walked away for 10 minutes and had a sandwich.

The best part is that the code it wrote is concise, clean, and even stylistically similar to the existing codebase.

If claude code can improve on that I would love to know what I am missing!

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