$10/month is a lot. You have to be solving a very critical need for me to sign up for that. $3-$5, not that big of a deal, $8 I'll think about it. $10 better be a major benefit
Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
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Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
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Yeah? Which one? You might not have understood what I meant
As far as I know, OpenAI does charge for API usage. If that's not what you meant, clarify?
I meant OpenAI billing for me in the same charge, an external app integrating their API. So the user only pay once
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#13Most charge way more than 10/month. Most startups also die.
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
As far as I know, OpenAI does charge for API usage. If that's not what you meant, clarify?
I meant OpenAI billing for me in the same charge, an external app integrating their API. So the user only pay once
I still don't follow you at all.
The way I understand it is that:
OpenAI bills people who use their API to build apps or whatever.
OpenAI also bills people who use its non-API products (like ChatGPT).
Am I missing something here or what is it that you dislike about this?
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I meant OpenAI billing for me in the same charge, an external app integrating their API. So the user only pay once
I still don't follow you at all. The way I understand it is that: OpenAI bills people who use their API to build apps or whatever. OpenAI also bills people who use its non-API products (like ChatGPT). Am I missing something here or what is it that you dislike about this?
They're basically suggesting logging into a product with an OpenAI account and paying OpenAI directly for the product's AI usage. Presumably the product would get some cut of OpenAI's revenue.
Like AI is the gas that powers the AI product. OpenAI sells the gas, the product gets commission.
That was my understanding at least, since I've had the same thought.
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#16I feel like you're somewhat viewing this from the wrong direction. Let me paraphrase to make a point.
I went into my supermarket yesterday. They have thousands of different products on the shelves. Worse, the products run out and I'm expected to come back next month and buy more. Is this sustainable? Do I have to buy one of everything every month?
If you're drowning in new SaaS products then you're spending too much time looking at them. You're not expected to know most of them exist, much less subscribe.
SaaS is no different to anything else. They are businesses selling products to customers. If you're drowning in those wait till I tell you how many shops want to sell you bread... (or how many species of bread there are.)
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I still don't follow you at all. The way I understand it is that: OpenAI bills people who use their API to build apps or whatever. OpenAI also bills people who use its non-API products (like ChatGPT). Am I missing something here or what is it that you dislike about this?
They're basically suggesting logging into a product with an OpenAI account and paying OpenAI directly for the product's AI usage. Presumably the product would get some cut of OpenAI's revenue. Like AI is the gas that powers the AI product. OpenAI sells the gas, the product gets commission. That was my understanding at least, since I've had the same thought.
I think you might be on the right track but the guy says that in his dream world the user only pays once. That’s the same thing that’s happening now. I neither know nor care how much OpenAIWrapperApp is paying for its API usage. I just get billed by OpenAIWrapperApp for the amount they charge.
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're basically suggesting logging into a product with an OpenAI account and paying OpenAI directly for the product's AI usage. Presumably the product would get some cut of OpenAI's revenue. Like AI is the gas that powers the AI product. OpenAI sells the gas, the product gets commission. That was my understanding at least, since I've had the same thought.
I think you might be on the right track but the guy says that in his dream world the user only pays once. That’s the same thing that’s happening now. I neither know nor care how much OpenAIWrapperApp is paying for its API usage. I just get billed by OpenAIWrapperApp for the amount they charge.
You can forward user keys to OpenAI on behalf of a user as a dev.
Maybe there’s a world where it’s like bring your own keys and pay $3-$5 for my UX work and could rental delivering that to you.
I also see a world where web app devs shift to distributing free self hosted versions of products; new tools like CLAY make transitioning from web dev UI to local GUI pretty easy :)
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#19Are you concerned that startups will not be able to continue with these cheap subscriptions, or because you have to pay $10/product?
Not the OP but I personally would be interested in people's perspective on the # of $10 subscriptions the average person can sustain. Using Fermi estimation, is it: 1, 10, 100? I would say 1 because I don't believe businesses can create enough value (save them time or money) for the average person to justify spending $100/month on subscriptions. Another thought is how CISO's found themselves with 20 cyber subscriptio…
Most startups are massively over capexed, yea.
I think it’s still reasonable for solo devs or polymaths to shoot for solving small $5-$10/mo problems. Finding 1000 folks for $10/mo out of all 1,000,000,000 in anglosphere countries seems not hard, it just doesn’t make you a millionaire or afford staff.
Re: Just how many $10 /MOS subscriptions do startups expect us to sign up for?
#20It's perfectly fine to ignore 99.999% of those. Whip out a script or an app that does exactly what you need without the bloat if viable.
I subscribe to many newsletters and get loads of offers. I pretty much ignore all of them. Most of those $10/month tools are just clones of something or not useful at all in the trenches so to speak.