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US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by mensetmanusman »

kennywinker wrote: post #224
mensetmanusman wrote: post #214

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Spies have saved so many lives throughout history and they prevented nuclear Armageddon during the Cold War on many occasions. Therefore the more spies the better. Better spies than more covid research at wuhan.

> they prevented nuclear Armageddon during the Cold War on many occasions Spying created the conditions where we were on the brink of nuclear armageddon. That they also saved us from going over the brink isn’t really to their credit. Also, fyi - as best as we can ever know there was no lab leak. If you want a good summary of why not - have a listen to the most recent “If Books Could Kill” podcast episode.

5 minutes in, “Look how far away the breakout was from the lab!”

Really?

6 minutes in “look at the viruses they were working on…”

Can’t, it’s been scrubbed, thankfully some people saved some of the data before it was deleted.

7 minutes in: “never been a confirmed case of a lab worker getting covid”

The documented black market of animals out of biolabs in China and the fact that it’s an aerosol virus might be important here…

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Post by DSingularity »

edanm wrote: post #193
DSingularity wrote: post #184

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Unfortunately I don’t think he is capable of what you are asking him to do. Remember that the majority of the Israeli population think Israel hasnt gone far enough in Gaza. Yes that’s after starvation and murdering over 30k women and children. On top of that most Israelis see no problem with the Nakba which is the origin of the problem as it displaced the majority of Palestinians turning them into scattered refugees…

I would greatly appreciate if you didn't just assume things about me with absolutely no reason for it. Or do you also want people to assume everything about your views based on the average views of people in your country? > Such mindsets would never allow for achieving peace with neighbors through any strategy that isn’t built around dominance through violence. Just for the record, Israel has managed to achieve peace…

Israel has not achieved peaceful with its neighbors. Israel has achieved peace with the dictatorship governments that rule over their neighbors.

The people of Jordan and Egypt resent the Israelis because of what the Israelis do to the Palestinians on a daily basis. You know settle their lands, destroy their houses, uproot their trees, murder their children, starve their civilians, etc etc.

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Post by DSingularity »

ty6853 wrote: post #249
NickC25 wrote: post #244

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PEACE is? Nobody blowing eachother up is a bad thing?

When you consider the only way to achieve that is to first kill off all humans or set them into the stone age, yes I would say so.

I’ve only seen these kinds of mental gymnastics from Zionists who are forced into this non-coherent blabber to distract from their inhumanity. You must destroy peace for nearly a century to have peace? But then we haven’t had peace for a hundred years genius.

Keep pretending like your murder of children is the way towards peace. The rest of the world will just look at it with disgust.

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amarcheschi wrote: post #135

To give more context copy pasting my comment from a similar thread I would like to add that Paragon disagrees with COPASIR: (article in italian) https://www.fanpage.it/politica/paragon-smentisce-il-copasir ... They offered to give some information about who was surveilled by whom, but not surprisingly the Italian government refused (it was used by 2 secret service agencies in italy). At this point, Paragon stopped gi…

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Post by Aloisius »

hollerith wrote: post #106
hersko wrote: post #103

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> -The bald eagle that is also the only country in history to have nuked two civilian cities. It was this or invade which would have easily resulted in more casualties. Pretending the US just nuked them when the other option was nothing is childish. > - Its best friend, the country that's commiting a genocide in 2025 and that you cannot criticize. Ongoing wars in 2025 and casualty numbers according to Grok: - Russia-…

>It was this or invade which would have easily resulted in more casualties. There was no need to invade: as long as the naval blockade continued, Japan wouldn't get enough fossil fuels and other resources to threaten anyone. They probably would've been lucky to avoid mass starvation. --and Washington knew that when it decided to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but it also knew that the Soviets wanted invade Northern Jap…

There were still millions of Japanese troops outside of Japanese home islands all across Asia and the Pacific. The blockade would have had to be expanded and neither Japanese nor American leadership thought it was sustainable.

While there was a very optimistic view within the Navy that the Japanese would soon face starvation and surrender, it doesn't appear to match reality. The food situation wasn't so dire that Japan was in any danger of near-term mass starvation. Most of the shortages came from poor weather leading to a bad harvest - not something one can hope to continue - and there was ample evidence the Japanese would sacrifice millions rather than surrender. Indeed, nearly all of the high level Japanese officials questioned said they would have fought indefinitely.

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