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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by jrmg »

layer8 wrote: post #509
blitzar wrote: post #102

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Pro tip from a lifelong life enthusiast: if its breaking news, wait one week - first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive. Flick through last weeks newspaper if you need reassurance.

Is there an online version of “last week’s newspaper”? More specifically, that primarily contains reporting about somewhat “matured” topics, as opposed to still developing news.

It’s not online, but Delayed Gratification is a quarterly news magazine that reports on the news of the _previous_ quarter with an up-to-date perspective. It’s British but covers world news.

https://www.slow-journalism.com/

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Post by gardenhedge »

Waterluvian wrote: post #103
Ichthypresbyter wrote: post #69

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Why would a flock of birds large enough to be ingested by both engines of a two-engined plane not also be large enough to be ingested by all four engines of a four-engined plane?

Good point. We should be discussing eight-engine planes.

What's with these comments

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Post by ragazzina »

roncesvalles wrote: post #494
storus wrote: post #333

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Seat 11A. That's interesting, typically most survivors are located in the back, this one was in the front-center.

Someone on the r/aviation thread speculated 11A would be right above the gear assembly and is hardened.

I cannot comment on this specific point, but /r/aviation in general is terrible after an accident.

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Post by amit9gupta »

nindalf wrote: post #306
LostMyLogin wrote: post #294

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Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

Economist for me. I don't know of any other sources that can reach the same level.

I had been a Economist subscriber for almost 20 years. But then gradually I realized that their reporting on some issues are extremely biased and they conveniently skip reporting some facts to match their intended narrative and lead the reader to distorted conclusions. So I would assume they would be doing the same with other topics as well. I did not renew my subscription.

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Post by franktankbank »

whycome wrote: post #506
franktankbank wrote: post #464

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B.S. how do you walk away from that? This is some frankly humiliating reporting by BBC

Oddly they concatenate his names just as it appears in the passenger manifest (which airlines often do). But that’s not his name.

What do you mean that's not his name?

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Post by madaxe_again »

Onavo wrote: post #211
shivam543 wrote: post #196

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Isn't it possible to eject the fuel / fuel tank if crash is imminent?

Sure, if you don't want your wings anymore. The wings are the primary fuel tanks. You can drain the fuel out during flight but the process can take hours.

Ah, the old “Wings Stay On/Wings Fall Off” button.

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Post by amiga386 »

impulser_ wrote: post #500

Why is it always foreign airlines that crash? The US flys significantly more than any country in the world and operates the most Boeing airplanes including the 737 and 737 Max, yet there hasn't been a single major accident like this and the Max crashes in the US. Are these planes not maintained to the same standards, are the pilots not trained on these types of planes as much as in the US?

> there hasn't been a single major accident like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

> American Airlines Flight 191 crashed shortly after lifting off the runway at Chicago O'Hare Airport [...] The accident was attributed to improper maintenance procedures. The crash resulted in the deaths of all 271 passengers and crew on board, as well as two people on the ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

> American Airlines Flight 587 crashed in the Belle Harbor neighborhood of Queens, New York, just after departing John F. Kennedy International Airport bound for Las Américas International Airport, Santo Domingo. The first officer's overuse of the rudder in response to wake turbulence from a Japan Airlines 747 was cited as cause. All 260 people on board, as well as five people on the ground, died from the crash

I'm going to downvote you now.

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Post by [deleted] »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #453
snickerbockers wrote: post #93

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jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best. Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to a…

They put airports where there is room to put them. Frequently that means that they are well outside cities since finding space for a few 2 mile runways in the city is difficult. However, there are plenty of airports in major cities and built up areas (in both developed and developing countries), and I have never heard of avoiding building in areas due to the (remote) possibility of crashes.

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