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Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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Post by matheusmoreira »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #118
matheusmoreira wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This state is anything but stable. The supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country. For some reason they didn't maneuver against that.

> supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country Let’s say that’s true. How is this structurally dissimilar from the military being in charge?

It's not. They are both unelected authoritarian dictatorships. If I must live under a dictatorship, I want it to be a regime that somewhat aligns with my values and interests at the very least.

The people in power right now are communists and socialists. It's not even an understatement. Nazis go straight to jail but these socialists walk our soil completely unpunished even though they are far more damaging.

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Post by owebmaster »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #119
owebmaster wrote: post #114

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They even literally asked for Extra-Terrestrial help. Funny times. Awaiting 4 years for the next election is not that painful.

I think it's sad, not funny. Supreme court judges are not elected. They don't even have to pass tests.

They gotta follow the constitution. And judge criminals. Exactly that is what they are doing. For that to be happening at the same time as the US devolve into a dictatorship is quite didactic

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Post by matheusmoreira »

owebmaster wrote: post #122
matheusmoreira wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's sad, not funny. Supreme court judges are not elected. They don't even have to pass tests.

They gotta follow the constitution. And judge criminals. Exactly that is what they are doing. For that to be happening at the same time as the US devolve into a dictatorship is quite didactic

> They gotta follow the constitution.

No, they don't. They can do whatever they want and nobody can do a thing about it. Whatever they write on a paper becomes law, simply because police enforces it.

The fact they weren't and aren't following the constitution was a major cause of January 8th. Censorship is unconstitutional in Brazil, especially that of a political nature. And political censorship is exactly what they engaged in. They just happened to use euphemisms like "fake news". I remember one case where they censordd a documentary before it was even published. A priori censorship, something not seen in these lands since the military dictatorship.

> And judge criminals.

Supreme court's purpose is to judge politicians with immunity and assorted privilges. Not common citizens.

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Post by ufo »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #118
matheusmoreira wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This state is anything but stable. The supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country. For some reason they didn't maneuver against that.

> supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country Let’s say that’s true. How is this structurally dissimilar from the military being in charge?

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Post by cassianoleal »

larrled wrote: post #91
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #83

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> Occupying the government buildings is essentially the standard brazilian protest. It's happened many times before and will happen again Brazil also has a history of military coups, something that mob explicitly sought to provoke [1]. It makes sense for the system to learn from past failings. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_January_Bras%C3%ADlia_attack...

I feel like coups are more likely in developing or socialist countries. An American coup at this point seems very unlikely to work thanks to “learning from past failings” and stuff like advanced weapons systems. I mean heck, we can’t even escape the two party system, imagine overthrowing them and the federal government in one swoop, and doing that by means of citizen protestors occupying a building. Seems crazy to wo…

A straight-up military coup is unlikely but not by much. In fact, former President Bolsonaro and most of his closest allies in government are on trial for planning exactly that.

In any case, other, "softer", coups have been happening with alarming frequency in South America, Brazil included.

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Post by cassianoleal »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #119
owebmaster wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They even literally asked for Extra-Terrestrial help. Funny times. Awaiting 4 years for the next election is not that painful.

I think it's sad, not funny. Supreme court judges are not elected. They don't even have to pass tests.

> They don't even have to pass tests.

That's not true. At the very least, they need to be Law Bachelors. Furthermore, after being nominated by the President they need to get approval from the Senate.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ufo wrote: post #124
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> supreme court has become the de facto rulers of this country Let’s say that’s true. How is this structurally dissimilar from the military being in charge?

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> continuing to argue with the fascist won't be a productive use of your time

They’re informed, coherent and seem to honestly hold their views. I’m genuinely curious about what they have to say, even if I wouldn’t want their policy prescription for my own country.

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Post by owebmaster »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #123
owebmaster wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They gotta follow the constitution. And judge criminals. Exactly that is what they are doing. For that to be happening at the same time as the US devolve into a dictatorship is quite didactic

> They gotta follow the constitution. No, they don't. They can do whatever they want and nobody can do a thing about it. Whatever they write on a paper becomes law, simply because police enforces it. The fact they weren't and aren't following the constitution was a major cause of January 8th. Censorship is unconstitutional in Brazil, especially that of a political nature. And political censorship is exactly what they…

I'm glad the people that think like you are a tiny minority that is being persecuted and answering for the crimes. The supreme court never worked better.

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Post by EasyMark »

akoboldfrying wrote: post #2

It will be really interesting to watch how this unfolds. My hypothesis: Meta, X et al. will threaten to just wholesale IP-block the country (not worth the risk), and it will become a game of Chicken. Side note: The density of ads on that page is almost impressive.

I always use an adblocker and that page is a stubborn one, it just keeps blocking after a couple of minutes as the count rises to 100+
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