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US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

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That bias is earned, especially over actions the US has committed covertly in Europe over the last 50 years.

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> US contributions to ensuring peace in Europe Name the contributions after 1945.

Do they not teach about the Marshall Plan in schools anymore?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

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waay down, near the end of the article: "Paragon referred questions to a statement it gave to Israeli newspaper Haaretz, in which the company said that it stopped providing spyware to Italy after the government declined its offer to help investigate Cancellato’s case. "

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I don't think that "No Jews No News" hints that Altman is in the news only because he's Jewish. It means that people care about _bad things_ more when they're done by Jews. The fact that Einstein is Einstein and Marx is Marx is only relevant if you're claiming that the reason people like blaming Jews is due to jealously of their relative success.

No, the “No Jews, No Jews” saying doesn’t have anything to do with the perceived negativity of the news item. It has to do with the fact that Jews were involved in some way (good or bad). I’m pointing out is that maybe that’s because Jews are just more involved in pivotal developments than are non-Jews. Making this about “bad news” implies that there’s systematic racism against Jews in the news industry, and I’m sorr…

Look at this headline, it's framed as an Israeli company spying on European journalists. Obvious negative connotation.

Meanwhile it's actually the government of Italy that spied on the journalists.

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It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

When you hear an art piece was stolen from a museum, do you ever hear about the buyer?

No, you hear about where it was, who stole it and where it was found.

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Collections? Like debt collection? Where are you getting that? Or are you calling gov spyware on journalists phones normal?

>Collections? Like debt collection? Where are you getting that?

It's a term used in the military/national security circles for intelligence gathering.

https://www.intelligence.gov/careers/explore-careers/intelli...

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/do...

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Headlines are written by the publisher not the author. They’re written to maximize readership. The fact that spying happened in italy by italians is mostly only interesting to italians. The fact that the US backs an israeli company that sells spying tools is interesting to many more people. You can see the selling clicks, but because they’re not twisting the truth or saying something misleading - in this case I mostl…

However, the fact that companies sell offensive cyber warfare software to governments is not new, and that specific company isn't either. There's also nothing inherently wrong with selling intelligence tools to a western government, Italy is not Iran or Zambia. And fighting terror or crime using software is valid. The only thing that surprises me is that a western government might attack journalists, and what I'd lik…

If it was for no good reason, would that update your “nothing inherently wrong with selling intelligence tools to a western government?” I do think western governments are generally better, but spying on journalists is bad.

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People want the US to ensure peace. The problem is that the US has in recent months turned away from that and is instead promoting unrest, both home and abroad.

What has the US done in recent months to promote unrest abroad?
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