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Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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> If Californians have a problem with this, they do have the option to fund the science themselves

That's rather difficult when the federal government takes their tax money, and then:

1. Best-case: Spends it on their cronies and the states that elected it - while gleefully witholding disaster aid from Cali.

2. Worst-case: Spends it on great-leader-army-parades and illegally kidnapping people and deploying the military against California.

Let me turn it around - if flyover country is convinced that immigrants are ruining their glorious utopia, and is willing to destroy fundamental American rights and values to throw them all out - why the hell is it sending it's thugs into blue states? Their 'help' isn't wanted, especially when we get to foot the bill for the shakedown.

Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Sure, let’s start having Californians not have to pay federal taxes.

I genuinely am not joking, if the govt wants to go this direction then let’s welcome states rights to keep their money within their borders.

Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Wherever budget cuts are proposed, you can rely upon detractors to present the issue in apocalyptic terms. If we believed all of these claims, then it would be impossible to cut the scope of government spending. Furthermore, if we accepted the premise promoted by some commenters here, then research, which is presented as incredibly valuable - would be unable to be funded or valued in the private market. For these rea…

What’s divorced from reality is your ignorance about these projects and how tight their budget already is.

You’re rejecting arguments because of ideology, how convenient.

Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Cutting enough to do what?

Address deficit spending? Trump and the GOP do not care about that at all, they're looking at increasing the deficit dramatically.

The GOP has done an amazing job selling people on topics like the deficit, trade, big tech and doing the opposite and people still fall for it.

Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Wherever budget cuts are proposed, you can rely upon detractors to present the issue in apocalyptic terms. If we believed all of these claims, then it would be impossible to cut the scope of government spending. Furthermore, if we accepted the premise promoted by some commenters here, then research, which is presented as incredibly valuable - would be unable to be funded or valued in the private market. For these rea…

You think you could fundraise billions of dollars for science from private sources? You're talking about a $100B (spread out over the next decade) bill on the sidewalk. I don't think there's anything less realistic than the idea that there would be that amount of money available for the asking but unclaimed...

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Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Wherever budget cuts are proposed, you can rely upon detractors to present the issue in apocalyptic terms. If we believed all of these claims, then it would be impossible to cut the scope of government spending. Furthermore, if we accepted the premise promoted by some commenters here, then research, which is presented as incredibly valuable - would be unable to be funded or valued in the private market. For these rea…

You think you could fundraise billions of dollars for science from private sources? You're talking about a $100B (spread out over the next decade) bill on the sidewalk. I don't think there's anything less realistic than the idea that there would be that amount of money available for the asking but unclaimed...

I don't agree with the GP either, but I'm pretty sure there are more than 100 B of private capital which are, on the big scheme of things, being spent on quite frivolous things.. if at all. Which reinforces your point: some things good for society as a whole need to be funded by taxes.

Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Although the article is from the LA Times, California is not the only state with science research. Since research benefits everyone, it makes sense and is more efficient to fund it under the largest possible umbrella.
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