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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by Swizec »

LostMyLogin wrote: post #294
nindalf wrote: post #205

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Pro tip from an absolute rando: don’t bother with any source of breaking news. Read a weekly paper that summarises the important stuff. If something is truly pressing, you’ll hear about it from friends or coworkers.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

I really like the Economist as a source of weekly news.

Somehow I’ve ended up primarily reading their daily recap in the app. They already have a full article on this crash. That usually means it’ll be in the magazine next week.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by [deleted] »

pixl97 wrote: post #338
jgwil2 wrote: post #234

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Call me a "party pooper" if you will but maybe you shouldn't be having "fun" with an accident that will have killed hundreds of people.

On a long enough timeline we all die. Guess we shouldn't ever have "fun".

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by andrepd »

nindalf wrote: post #306
LostMyLogin wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggestions for some sources to read? I know the Economist, anything else others would recommend?

Economist for me. I don't know of any other sources that can reach the same level.

Well you're missing out and stunting your own worldview if you stick to only one source of information (regardless of which it is).

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Post by bombcar »

decimalenough wrote: post #22

Flightradar24 reports that this occurred immediately after takeoff: Initial ADS-B data from flight #AI171 shows that the aircraft reached a maximum barometric altitude of 625 feet (airport altitude is about 200 feet) and then it started to descend with an vertical speed of -475 feet per minute. https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1933091913567285366?t=MhY... This also means that the flight was fully fueled and it's sa…

So 425 above ground level in a plane that has a 200 ft wingspan, they barely got out of ground effect.

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Post by randomNumber7 »

account42 wrote: post #167
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25

Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.

Gentle tip from a lifelong speculation enthusiast: if speculating now is fun for you don't let party poopers stop you.

I think boing messed up the service.

They did this because they are parasites that value a few $$ over human life.

Everyone knows it after the MAX.

Everyone involved in MAX (including engineerings) should get a live in prison without pardon.

Sincerely, A fellow engineer

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Post by sokoloff »

quantumfissure wrote: post #251
chucksmash wrote: post #229

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Maybe globally it's an average year but the DCA crash alone makes it an extraordinary year in US commercial aviation. Not all crashes are created equal. A 10 person Cessna disappearing near Nome, Alaska !== mid-air collision above the Potomac. If you're looking at US news sources, I don't think you need to resort to clickbait and fearmongering to justify the increased focus.

There is a media difference though since the DCA crash. Military and small planes ( On a personal level, I know three people that have died in small plane crashes in the Alaska wilderness in the last 15 years, which is so common that it didn't even get on local news. I have acquaintances that were in involved in two others elsewhere over the last few years. Small planes are unbelievably dangerous. Commercial jets, no…

Small planes are about twice as safe per mile as motorcycles, all-cause to all-cause.

Now, there’s planes running out of fuel and drunk driving on cycles that some operators might choose to exclude from their own risk calculations, but it’s a little over one order of magnitude riskier than cars.

Whether that’s unbelievably dangerous is up to personal judgment.

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Post by dogleash »

StefanBatory wrote: post #296
drcongo wrote: post #236

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Why? I went news cold turkey about 6 years ago and I'm very happy with that decision.

Because not everyone is privileged enough to be able to ignore news.

Your attempt at an irritated jab is just the doomscroll addiction talking.

Even for people that read news out of necessity, it can be curtailed down to only the relevant topics and the dryer outlets. I am one of those people, and the need to stay up to date doesn't justify the junkfood.

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Post by randomNumber7 »

snickerbockers wrote: post #59
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25

Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.

I hate so much how whenever something bad happens there's a huge rush to come up with theories that place the blame on some group or ideology you already hated for unrelated reasons. I've stopped paying attention to the news in part because I don't like how disingenuously giddy people get whenever there's a mass-casualty event. I don't even mind morbid curiosity about death and suffering but nobody should ever see it…

It speaks for itself that this gets down voted.

The game theory problem is probably that if everyone does it you have to do it too.

Like I strongly support equals chances, but if I e.g. get discriminated against for being a white heterosexual male -> it kinda forces me to vote against it

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Post by account42 »

lormayna wrote: post #98
gsky wrote: post #91

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People always tweet trending stuff for popularity as simple as that

But this seems a "first hand" content, not a retweet.

It could simply be reposted from another site or downloaded from a tweet and uploaded without attribution.
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