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Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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We should be discussing no-engine planes, since they are obviously safer in such situations.

Yes, why would we put those polluting and noisy engines on the plane? The passengers could just take turns going out and pushing.

Bicycle pedals at every seat. Maybe with a deadman interlock so that if you stop pedalling your seat falls out of the plane.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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post #125

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Do you have relevant expertise in this topic?

On the topic of dudes online speculating wildly? Yes, I've been on this website quite a long time, unfortunately.

Maybe OP also has lots experience speculating about airplane safety so let him talk.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Why would a flock of birds large enough to be ingested by both engines of a two-engined plane not also be large enough to be ingested by all four engines of a four-engined plane?

>Why don’t all four tires on a car blow out at the same time?

The kid would have to have a pretty large glass milk bottle hidden under his coat for that to happen.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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post #267

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Similarly The Guardian has a weekly publication - https://support.theguardian.com/uk/subscribe/weekly Unfortunately it doesn't appear to have a digital option?

I can access a digital Guardian Weekly through my public library's online magazines (Hoopla or Libby or some such).

Thanks, that's good to know.

And I've just seen that you CAN get The Guardian Weekly digital subscription here, free if you've got a print subscription? Though obviously I'm wondering why the Guardian don't advertise this?

https://theguardianweekly.pressreader.com/

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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A pilot speculated that it looks like a multiple bird strike.

Why no control inputs then? Surely, the plane could still be commanded in absence of engine power.

What would you do with the controls? There wasn't an alternative landing area they could have got to.

About all they could probably do was to try to get the engines going.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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If you don't read news, you are uninformed. If you read news, you are misinformed

I”m reformed. I reread hn.

LOL. Guilty also.

Regarding the original sentiment though, uninformed vs misinformed...

Isn't this basically just good old signal processing? We either don't have enough signal, or we're saturated with noise. Economic feedback loops keep the news noise at a saturated level; we don't seem to be able to collectively agree or incentivize having a spot of information spectrum that has a decent discernible signal.

The "free" press is no more free than it was 300 years ago. Then it was owned by despotic interests. Today, it is owned by need to make money.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Why would a flock of birds large enough to be ingested by both engines of a two-engined plane not also be large enough to be ingested by all four engines of a four-engined plane?

Good point. We should be discussing eight-engine planes.

This is where some of the E-Plane concepts really shine. Let's see a flock of birds take out every engine on this NASA demonstrator:

https://sacd.larc.nasa.gov/asab/asab-projects-2/x57maxwell/

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

#328

Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.

A week isn't long enough. Just wait for the official report.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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I agree with that wholeheartedly. The problem is that people want to discuss today's news now. Explaining them this and not being able to engage in the conversation isn't a great way to connect with people unfortunately.

There's always the weather... how's yours? Mine is warm, a bit of cloudy, and a bit of smoke in the air from PNW fires.

Mine has been crazy - sunny, then rained, now overcast and all while being unseasonably humid. I should have mowed the lawn while it was sunny earlier but missed the window to get it done.

Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard

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Why? I went news cold turkey about 6 years ago and I'm very happy with that decision.

Because not everyone is privileged enough to be able to ignore news.

shame doesnt work anymore
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