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My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#71

While this seems like a lot, in some ways this is what user's expect. Push notifications should be coming all the time, assuming the system is on. Most users expect various maintenance services to run when the system idle so it doesn't interfere with their active use of the system. When users open apps like Weather (or view a widget), they expect it to already be up to date without having to manually refresh or wait…

When Microsoft has telemetry: * Windows is a spyware machine - how can anyone use it? Year of Linux baby! When Apple has telemetry: * It's working as expected. So... to be fair, is there a thorough comparison of the two? How are they the same, and how are they different?

I didn’t see the person you’re replying to ever mention Microsoft. It seems weird to accuse them of hypocrisy?

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#72

While this seems like a lot, in some ways this is what user's expect. Push notifications should be coming all the time, assuming the system is on. Most users expect various maintenance services to run when the system idle so it doesn't interfere with their active use of the system. When users open apps like Weather (or view a widget), they expect it to already be up to date without having to manually refresh or wait…

When Microsoft has telemetry: * Windows is a spyware machine - how can anyone use it? Year of Linux baby! When Apple has telemetry: * It's working as expected. So... to be fair, is there a thorough comparison of the two? How are they the same, and how are they different?

The people who complain about windows telemetry, arnt going to Mac, they use Arch Linux btw.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#73

While this seems like a lot, in some ways this is what user's expect. Push notifications should be coming all the time, assuming the system is on. Most users expect various maintenance services to run when the system idle so it doesn't interfere with their active use of the system. When users open apps like Weather (or view a widget), they expect it to already be up to date without having to manually refresh or wait…

When Microsoft has telemetry: * Windows is a spyware machine - how can anyone use it? Year of Linux baby! When Apple has telemetry: * It's working as expected. So... to be fair, is there a thorough comparison of the two? How are they the same, and how are they different?

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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#74

While this seems like a lot, in some ways this is what user's expect. Push notifications should be coming all the time, assuming the system is on. Most users expect various maintenance services to run when the system idle so it doesn't interfere with their active use of the system. When users open apps like Weather (or view a widget), they expect it to already be up to date without having to manually refresh or wait…

When Microsoft has telemetry: * Windows is a spyware machine - how can anyone use it? Year of Linux baby! When Apple has telemetry: * It's working as expected. So... to be fair, is there a thorough comparison of the two? How are they the same, and how are they different?

Honestly I would say “working as expected” for like 99% of Microsoft’s telemetry. I think the only difference is that I fucking hate hate hate OneDrive and so I’m gonna be more upset about the fact that Windows uses it. iCloud does not bother me so I don’t complain about it.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#75

I use a slow cellular connection and noticed some apple service (I could never figure out which one, even after installing an outgoing firewall) was aggressively uploading some large blob every time the mac woke from sleep, which made the whole connection useless for up to half an hour. At some point, apple must've fixed this "bug", but the experience -- and apple's increasingly obtrusive software -- convinced me to…

My Macbook used to grind CPU for 10-20 minutes after every power on. That happened with literally fresh install and it does it every time. I don't know why does it do that. May be some indexing? This lack of transparency was one of the reasons for me switching to Linux too. I don't want my OS to do anything at all in background, that I didn't explicitly configured to. I want to be in full control of my software. Linu…

Huh, which process was doing this grinding on your MacBook?

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#76
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A default linux install is incredibly silent on the network. You might be seeing some mDNS stuff, gnome/firefox may do some requests to detect captive portals, but overall the amount of network traffic is pretty small and manageable. It's important to note that, generally speaking, Linux software does not come with default-enabled telemetry, and for those that do, distros like Debian will routinely patch out phoning…

That is only because there is barely any open source software for Linux that is backed by cloud services. Now install Spotify, VSCode, Steam for Linux and you will see the same kind of chatter with backend services.

> That is only because there is barely any open source software for Linux that is backed by cloud services.

Some of us would call this a feature. I am quite happy to have control over my computer and the data on it without having to trust third party cloud services.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#77

Polling domains when attached to the network like this doesnt suprise me in the least. Apple's ecosystem has often been praised for its tight integration, and this consistent network connectivity is the result. Anybody who has worked with large scale services that rely on messaging services to ensure people get timely notifications and data, knows that you need services which are continuously polling endpoints to che…

The article’s author would apparently be happier if everything were on a single domain with just ports or paths to separate services. Thinking about the number of DNS names seems kind of silly.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#78

While this seems like a lot, in some ways this is what user's expect. Push notifications should be coming all the time, assuming the system is on. Most users expect various maintenance services to run when the system idle so it doesn't interfere with their active use of the system. When users open apps like Weather (or view a widget), they expect it to already be up to date without having to manually refresh or wait…

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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#79
post #42

For fun, compare and contrast the comments here to this post on Windows 10 from 5 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208050

This article: Apple’s OS relies on a lot of services to deliver its features!

That article: Microsoft reports every click you make

Is that the comparison you’re making?

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

#80
post #77

Polling domains when attached to the network like this doesnt suprise me in the least. Apple's ecosystem has often been praised for its tight integration, and this consistent network connectivity is the result. Anybody who has worked with large scale services that rely on messaging services to ensure people get timely notifications and data, knows that you need services which are continuously polling endpoints to che…

The article’s author would apparently be happier if everything were on a single domain with just ports or paths to separate services. Thinking about the number of DNS names seems kind of silly.

This is an extremely uncharitable interpretation of the article.

The number was just intended to illustrate the amount of communication that occurs.

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