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Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you use Claude Code with Pro? I was trying to figure this out and I thought you couldn't (unless you enter an API key and pay for tokens).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44179604

Thanks

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#82

I stumbled into Agentic Coding in VS Code Nightlys with co-pilot using Claude Sonnet 4 and I've been silly productive. Even when half my day is meetings, you wouldn't be able to tell from my git history. My thinking now is removed from the gory details and is a step or two up. How can I validate the changes are working? Can I understand this code? How should it be structured so I can better understand it? Is there mo…

I trust it more with Rust than Python tbh, because with Python you need to make sure it runs every code path as the static analysis isn't as good as clippy + rust-analyzer.

I agree, had more luck with various models writing Rust than Python, but only in the case where they have tools available so one way or another it can run `cargo check` and see the nice errors, otherwise it's pretty equal between the two.

I think the excellent error messages in Rust also help as much humans as it does LLMs, but some of the weaker models get misdirected by some of the "helpful" tips, like some error message suggest "Why don't you try .clone here?" when the actual way to address the issue was something else.

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#83

I stumbled into Agentic Coding in VS Code Nightlys with co-pilot using Claude Sonnet 4 and I've been silly productive. Even when half my day is meetings, you wouldn't be able to tell from my git history. My thinking now is removed from the gory details and is a step or two up. How can I validate the changes are working? Can I understand this code? How should it be structured so I can better understand it? Is there mo…

> Is there more we can add to the AI conventions markdown in the repo to guide the Agent to make fewer mistaken assumptions?

Forgive my ignorance, but is this just a file you're adding to the context of every agent turn or this a formal convention in the VS code copilot agent? And I'm curious if there's any resources you used to determine the structure of that document or if it was just a refinement over time based on mistakes the AI was repeating?

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

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post #68

Randomly, my advice: don't sleep on this. Three or four weeks ago I was posting how LLMs were useful for one-off questions but I wouldn't trust them on my codebase. Then I spent my week's holiday messing around on them for some personal projects. I am now a fairly committed Roo user. There are lots of problems, but there is incredible value here. Try it and see if you're still a hold-out.

I spent a good part of yesterday attempting to use ChatGPT to help me choose an appropriate API gateway. Over and over it suggested things that literally do not exist, and the only reason I could tell was that I spent a good amount of time in the actual documentation. This has been my experience roughly 80% of the time when trying to use an LLM. I would like to know what is the magical prompt engineering technique th…

Did you try giving it the docs to read?

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

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post #23

I have seen multiple articles pushing for GO as agentic language of choice; does anyone else feel like this is quite forced? I have tried agentic coding in several languages and I didn't have a particularly good or productive experience with GO.

it's especially forced if you are making frontend or mobile apps

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#86
post #20

Elixir looks like agood choice as well, folks have recorded a session building a Phoenix web app with Claude Code and it went quite well for them: https://youtu.be/V2b6QCPgFTk

in the same vein, the closing keynote at this years' ElixirConf EU featured agents building web apps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojL_VHc4gLk

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

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post #68

Randomly, my advice: don't sleep on this. Three or four weeks ago I was posting how LLMs were useful for one-off questions but I wouldn't trust them on my codebase. Then I spent my week's holiday messing around on them for some personal projects. I am now a fairly committed Roo user. There are lots of problems, but there is incredible value here. Try it and see if you're still a hold-out.

I spent a good part of yesterday attempting to use ChatGPT to help me choose an appropriate API gateway. Over and over it suggested things that literally do not exist, and the only reason I could tell was that I spent a good amount of time in the actual documentation. This has been my experience roughly 80% of the time when trying to use an LLM. I would like to know what is the magical prompt engineering technique th…

Sure, this was exactly how I felt three weeks ago, and I could have written that comment myself. The agentic approach where it works out it made something up by looking at the errors the type-check generates is what makes the difference.

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#88
Meta: this hits differently because the author of this post created an awesome, popular Python web framework some 15 years ago. I miss those times dearly (using Python for web stuff).

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#89

Can someone recommended some source for vibe coding eg. how to prompt it properly, what tools to use? Does someone have any experience on anything other than small projects from scratch?

I had the same question because all my experience with this contradicts the hype.

I watched Ronacher's demo from yesterday, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQYXZCUvpIc, and this is it, a well-regarded engineer working on a serious open source project. There's no wizard behind the curtain, it's the thing I've been asking the promoters for.

And you should make your own judgment, but I'm just not impressed.

It seems to me the machine takes longer, creates a plan that "is shit," and then has to be fixed by a person who has a perfect understanding of the problem.

I'm loving LLMs as research tools, pulling details out of bad documentation, fixing my types and dumb SQL syntax errors, and searching my own codebase in natural language.

But if I have to do all the reasoning myself no matter what, setting a robot free to make linguistically probable changes really feels like a net negative.

Re: Agentic Coding Recommendations

#90
https://github.com/dagger/container-use (cu) is improving daily. Happy to help get it working if you're hitting anything (we're all in dagger.io discord). Last night I tried it with Amazon Q Developer CLI chat (with claude-3.7-sonnet), which I hadn't touched before (will PR how-to to the README today). MCP integration just worked for me. Figured out where to put the agent rules for Q and how to restrict to just the tools from cu. I kicked off three instances of Q to modify my flask app project with the same prompt in parallel (don't step on the local source) and got three variants to review in short order. I merged the one I liked into the repo and tossed the rest.
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