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My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by onedognight »

fortran77 wrote: post #4
thomassmith65 wrote: post #2

With Apple, you want to block *.apple.com and white-list subdomains as you need them. If instead you black-list apple subdomains, the battle will never end.

Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)

1) The ads in my start menu all come from one domain.

2) One is less than 63.

3) Profit?

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by zeeZ »

greenavocado wrote: post #7
fortran77 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)

Windows telemetry is way more insane Small sample of telemetry and spying domains (out of date): https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Strappazzon/teleme7ry/mast...

That "small sample of telemetry and spying domains" also contains login pages and update downloads, among others. You're just saying everything Microsoft is telemetry and spying, here are all their domains.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by SimianSci »

fortran77 wrote: post #4
thomassmith65 wrote: post #2

With Apple, you want to block *.apple.com and white-list subdomains as you need them. If instead you black-list apple subdomains, the battle will never end.

Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)

Anybody who has done similar checks for windows will see an order of magnitude more connections being made. As someone who got their start managing windows devices, and who has gone through the painful steps of mapping out what each such connection is meant for, I was suprised to see that there was ONLY 63 connections being made in an hour for this article. The last time I mapped such connections for a windows device, we had measured about 200+ similar connections within a single hour.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by st3fan »

zeeZ wrote: post #22
greenavocado wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows telemetry is way more insane Small sample of telemetry and spying domains (out of date): https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Strappazzon/teleme7ry/mast...

That "small sample of telemetry and spying domains" also contains login pages and update downloads, among others. You're just saying everything Microsoft is telemetry and spying, here are all their domains.

Same with all those Apple domains. This is the world we live in now. Operating systems and most applications are now backed by cloud services.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by st3fan »

roblabla wrote: post #18
footlose_3815 wrote: post #5

I'm curious what Microsoft and Ubuntu's experience is as well, so there's a frame of reference. I skimmed that list, and Devil's Advocate; It seems like most of that is functional, stuff that they want to update in the background to make sure you have a better experience when you're back? On the flip, I guess we think Apple is up to something shady? My last understanding was that they were firm they didn't sell user…

A default linux install is incredibly silent on the network. You might be seeing some mDNS stuff, gnome/firefox may do some requests to detect captive portals, but overall the amount of network traffic is pretty small and manageable. It's important to note that, generally speaking, Linux software does not come with default-enabled telemetry, and for those that do, distros like Debian will routinely patch out phoning…

That is only because there is barely any open source software for Linux that is backed by cloud services.

Now install Spotify, VSCode, Steam for Linux and you will see the same kind of chatter with backend services.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by exe34 »

fortran77 wrote: post #4
thomassmith65 wrote: post #2

With Apple, you want to block *.apple.com and white-list subdomains as you need them. If instead you black-list apple subdomains, the battle will never end.

Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)

Their hardware is quite nice - I have a mac book air from mid-2012 myself. (Although I moved to Nixos linux in 2016).

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by SimianSci »

zevon wrote: post #23

Does anybody know if all the Apple remote connection things happen on the MacOS level? I'm mostly using Asahi on my personal Macbook these days instead of MacOS and I'm curious if that cuts off everything or just many things.

Most of these connections are a result of the MacOS software and its particular resource needs. I am no Asahi Linux expert and would defer to a maintainer for specifics, but im led to believe that any Apple Silicon mac requires that they still communicate some base hardware information during initial install due to activation requirements that Apple has for its silicon.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by SimianSci »

st3fan wrote: post #24

What is the problem with this?

There is no problem with this if you have any understanding of modern platforms and accept the current paradigm we all live in. I imagine such things might be shocking to people who dont understand how connected the world is at this point, or who may have been living under a metaphorical rock when it comes to their computing.
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