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Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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It will be really interesting to watch how this unfolds. My hypothesis: Meta, X et al. will threaten to just wholesale IP-block the country (not worth the risk), and it will become a game of Chicken.

Side note: The density of ads on that page is almost impressive.

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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It will be really interesting to watch how this unfolds. My hypothesis: Meta, X et al. will threaten to just wholesale IP-block the country (not worth the risk), and it will become a game of Chicken. Side note: The density of ads on that page is almost impressive.

That reaction would be glorious but I doubt it's going to happen. Too much money at stake. They're likely to just accept it, just like they accept chinese control.

Brazil wants to become like China. One of the judge-kings even declared his admiration for the chinese and their control of communications. It's quite terrifying.

Donald Trump has been threatening sanctions against these people for a while now. What's he waiting for?

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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It will be really interesting to watch how this unfolds. My hypothesis: Meta, X et al. will threaten to just wholesale IP-block the country (not worth the risk), and it will become a game of Chicken. Side note: The density of ads on that page is almost impressive.

That reaction would be glorious but I doubt it's going to happen. Too much money at stake. They're likely to just accept it, just like they accept chinese control. Brazil wants to become like China. One of the judge-kings even declared his admiration for the chinese and their control of communications. It's quite terrifying. Donald Trump has been threatening sanctions against these people for a while now. What's he w…

By that logic, the USA also wants to become like China. The current POTUS, Donald J. Trump declared his admiration for the strong chinese response to the Tiananmen Square protests.

* https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-praised-china-tiananme...

* https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/11/donald-trump...

( and numerous other reports since his 1990 comments )

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reaction would be glorious but I doubt it's going to happen. Too much money at stake. They're likely to just accept it, just like they accept chinese control. Brazil wants to become like China. One of the judge-kings even declared his admiration for the chinese and their control of communications. It's quite terrifying. Donald Trump has been threatening sanctions against these people for a while now. What's he w…

By that logic, the USA also wants to become like China. The current POTUS, Donald J. Trump declared his admiration for the strong chinese response to the Tiananmen Square protests. * https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-praised-china-tiananme... * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/11/donald-trump... ( and numerous other reports since his 1990 comments )

He's a bit of a tyrant himself, isn't he? It's alarming but I suppose it's not surprising. Haven't seen him defend censorship yet though.

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic, the USA also wants to become like China. The current POTUS, Donald J. Trump declared his admiration for the strong chinese response to the Tiananmen Square protests. * https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-praised-china-tiananme... * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/11/donald-trump... ( and numerous other reports since his 1990 comments )

He's a bit of a tyrant himself, isn't he? It's alarming but I suppose it's not surprising. Haven't seen him defend censorship yet though.

Watch what people do rather than judge only on what they say.

Trump’s aggressive actions against free speech speak a lot louder than his words defending it

https://theconversation.com/trumps-aggressive-actions-agains...

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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I suppose the primary issue is lack of moderation on these platforms. I always contend that, if you don’t say certain things to a person face to face, you should have the decorum and decency to not do that in digital space.

And to that extent, social media platforms need to step up maintaining civility within their community.

The primary issue mentioned in the article is illegal content. That certainly requires high level of moderation.

Brazilian courts have the intent correct to hold social media platforms responsible if they don’t moderate. However, who knows how the execution of this judgement will look like.

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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I suppose the primary issue is lack of moderation on these platforms. I always contend that, if you don’t say certain things to a person face to face, you should have the decorum and decency to not do that in digital space. And to that extent, social media platforms need to step up maintaining civility within their community. The primary issue mentioned in the article is illegal content. That certainly requires high…

> And to that extent, social media platforms need to step up maintaining civility within their community.

This is always the line that will be crossed though, there are some comedians who I find in bad taste, but I'm not going to tell them they can't make their jokes. There will be those who feel entitled to 'moderate' what their beliefs and preferences dictate.

It might be done better, but then the same people will complain that social media is stifling free speech when their own narratives were found to be blocked.

But lets see how it plays out. I don't see why anyone would even attempt to create a social aspect to their services in Brazil with this hanging over their head though.

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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I suppose the primary issue is lack of moderation on these platforms. I always contend that, if you don’t say certain things to a person face to face, you should have the decorum and decency to not do that in digital space. And to that extent, social media platforms need to step up maintaining civility within their community. The primary issue mentioned in the article is illegal content. That certainly requires high…

> who knows how the execution of this judgement will look like

Persecution of political enemies, of course.

Re: Brazil's Supreme Court makes social media liable for user content

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post #8

I suppose the primary issue is lack of moderation on these platforms. I always contend that, if you don’t say certain things to a person face to face, you should have the decorum and decency to not do that in digital space. And to that extent, social media platforms need to step up maintaining civility within their community. The primary issue mentioned in the article is illegal content. That certainly requires high…

> And to that extent, social media platforms need to step up maintaining civility within their community. This is always the line that will be crossed though, there are some comedians who I find in bad taste, but I'm not going to tell them they can't make their jokes. There will be those who feel entitled to 'moderate' what their beliefs and preferences dictate. It might be done better, but then the same people will…

> There will be those who feel entitled to 'moderate' what their beliefs and preferences dictate.

I don’t think it is a question of entitlement. Just because you have a mic and want to go on a racist rant about other cultures, I don’t think this should be protected by free speech.

Similarly, the core issue from the article is stated as illegal content. One can only imagine why social media platforms don’t want to take action on that.

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