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Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by graemep »

n2d4 wrote: post #71
carbocation wrote: post #24

I think it's neat that this summary is written by an author of the scientific manuscript. Oversimplification is a risk, but this approach eliminates the possibility that the writer did not understand the underlying science.

Yea, and it was a great read too. I wish more researchers would publish blog posts alongside their technical whitepapers, although I acknowledge that not everyone involved in science has or wishes to acquire the skills needed to write blog-form content. (I'd also be worried about a world where researchers are evaluated based on the virality of their blog posts, vs. how impactful their work was.)

I think the benefits greatly outweigh any dangers. I far prefer to read something like this than something written up by a journalist.

> I acknowledge that not everyone involved in science has or wishes to acquire the skills needed to write blog-form content.

They should. If your research is publicly funded you should make it as available to be public as possible. Academics should be able to communicate, and I very much doubt they are unable to acquire the skills

> I'd also be worried about a world where researchers are evaluated based on the virality of their blog posts, vs. how impactful their work was

Given how bad the measures of impact and the distorted incentives this produces I am not even sure this would even be a bad thing.

If nothing else it improves transparency about what they are doing, again with public money.

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jarend wrote: post #350

The article is based on a physics paper (arXiv:2505.23877), not management theory or institutional metaphors. What the paper actually proposes is that the Big Bang may have been a gravitational bounce inside a black hole formed in a higher-dimensional parent universe. Quantum degeneracy pressure stops the collapse before a singularity forms. From the outside, it looks like a black hole. From the inside, it evolves as…

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by satiric »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #289
amelius wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no other entity. We're nothing. An algebra of nothing. Combine nothing with nothing in various ways (like S-terms) and it gives you physics, among many other things. From the inside we see a universe, from the outside you would see nothing.

As an agnostic I agree, but none the less it is a whole, absurd joke to be here without any answers and I demand someone to answer me.

If you agree with the above comment, doesn't that make you an atheist, not agnostic?

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Post by skellington »

nathan_compton wrote: post #216
twodave wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might as well believe in God if you’re going to believe in spontaneous accidental creation…

I don't think so - god is substantially less parsimonious. But in the end, I think you're sort of using two different notions of belief as if they were the same. I believe (lowercase b) in all sorts of stuff, scientific and otherwise, but believing in God typically indicates some kind of act of faith, which is to say, ultimately, to believe in something despite the absence of evidence for it and for some deeper reaso…

Sort of like believing that we have free will.

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Post by eggn00dles »

jarend wrote: post #350

The article is based on a physics paper (arXiv:2505.23877), not management theory or institutional metaphors. What the paper actually proposes is that the Big Bang may have been a gravitational bounce inside a black hole formed in a higher-dimensional parent universe. Quantum degeneracy pressure stops the collapse before a singularity forms. From the outside, it looks like a black hole. From the inside, it evolves as…

seems like this is just giving up on quantum gravity and saying the pauli exclusion principle will hold regardless of the gravitational force.

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Post by AppleBananaPie »

wrcwill wrote: post #248

while it doesn't take away from the article, i find it worrying that it seems mostly written with chatgpt "This is not just a technical glitch; it’s a deep theoretical problem that suggests we don’t really understand the beginning at all." "The bounce is not only possible – it’s inevitable under the right conditions." ugh

There was a physicist who made a video making fun of crackpot theories from engineers and reading the comments we're all happy to put forth our completely unsubstantiated opinions with zero understanding of the math and observations involved

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by AppleBananaPie »

ck2 wrote: post #172

There's a PBS Space Time for that (from three years ago) https://www.pbs.org/video/could-the-universe-be-inside-a-bla... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeRgFqbBM5E

Will hacker news side with ChatGPT or real physicists? :D

Love PBS space time !

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by steve_taylor »

hshshshshsh wrote: post #185
pharrington wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which God? Vishnu? Ra? Amatarasu?

Assume God exists. Various isolated cultures are going to come up with different names for God. This like saying which Sun? Surya, Ra or Helios? All are different names of sun. But there is only one sun.

> Various isolated cultures are going to come up with different names for God.

People hate not knowing the answer to the big questions so much that they'll readily accept whatever answers are served up to them.

> This like saying which Sun? Surya, Ra or Helios?

The difference is that the sun is readily observed. A conveniently invisible god isn't.

> All are different names of sun. But there is only one sun.

And there's only one human nature, which is why it's not surprising that common artefacts of human nature (e.g. religion) emerged universally throughout ancient human cultures.

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Post by friendzis »

hyperhello wrote: post #405
inimino wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the solution is ever more manuscripts that solve no interesting problems and that nobody will ever read, let's find another solution.

Why would you assume someone would write the paper at all, if the problem was uninteresting?

That's literally the basis of employment. People write papers, they get paid. Science does not get done.

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Post by Agentlien »

jarend wrote: post #350

The article is based on a physics paper (arXiv:2505.23877), not management theory or institutional metaphors. What the paper actually proposes is that the Big Bang may have been a gravitational bounce inside a black hole formed in a higher-dimensional parent universe. Quantum degeneracy pressure stops the collapse before a singularity forms. From the outside, it looks like a black hole. From the inside, it evolves as…

> What the paper actually proposes [...]

(Emphasis mine)

I haven't read the paper yet, but this sounds like a (good) summary of exactly what the article is saying. It makes me wonder what, if anything, you feel is different from the way you put it and the way it is explained in the article? As a layman they seem the same to me.

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