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Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by EMM_386 »

These type of 'theories' I dislike only because they don't get to the root of the problem.

It is the same for 'multiverse' where that is used to explain literally anything 'it's like that in this universe but not the others'.

Sure, we can get creative and explain the Anthropic Principle by mentioning the multiverse.

But none of this answers how something comes from nothing.

Not the vacuum of space and its 'quantum foam' where particles jump in from nowhere.

Because that's not 'nothing'.

One of these nothings ... such as level 9. No possibilities.

https://closertotruth.com/news/levels-of-nothing-by-robert-l...

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by 90s_dev »

RS-232 wrote: post #79

Not many people these days like to hear this (I myself was one of them), but the answer to this is in Genesis. There's a reason some of the most famous mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and philosophers of all time believe(d) in God. The Hebrew name of God, YHWH, literally means "He Who Is." In other words, the Self-Existent One. The father and originator of all things that were, are, and will be, who exists out…

You're in Athens, son.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by 90s_dev »

jplusequalt wrote: post #117
RS-232 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither does the precursor to the Big Bang. It's the same exact thing.

They are not the same thing. Religion and science may try to answer the same questions, but they are entirely different endeavors.

The idea that they're mutually exclusive is entirely stupid.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by 90s_dev »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #97
RS-232 wrote: post #79

Not many people these days like to hear this (I myself was one of them), but the answer to this is in Genesis. There's a reason some of the most famous mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and philosophers of all time believe(d) in God. The Hebrew name of God, YHWH, literally means "He Who Is." In other words, the Self-Existent One. The father and originator of all things that were, are, and will be, who exists out…

I understand that many people yearn for a religious explanation to answer the question of what caused the universe to exist. I myself am content with the "it just happened" explanation, as any information prior to the big bang, if it even exists, is unknowable. There are countless other religions that believe in a deity who created the universe. These deities either created themselves, or had always existed outside o…

Yet you call yourself a fool in your own username. Why be so sure you're not wrong about any or all of those statements?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by 90s_dev »

mrtksn wrote: post #16

Isn't time a human invention useful to model the nature? It's literally just a defined interaction as a reference, i.e. the sun rising up and going down which is the rotation of the earth. So IRL there's no time, there's no need to have a beginning or an end. Whatever happened when all the matter was close together isn't the beginning of anything, just a phase.

Try writing a computer program that has side effects without time existing.

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Post by yibg »

hshshshshsh wrote: post #246
nathan_compton wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, there are a lot of stars and different cultures might give them different names and yet there really are many of them. Furthermore, assume God doesn't exist. Lots of cultures might invent god for various reasons and they'd naturally have different names and attributes for them, which in fact seems to be the current state of affairs. In fact, if we assume God exists and is actively in communication…

Why do you think God will have a name? Name is used by humans to identity a person among a lot of other persons. Why will God have a name if it is the only thing in existence? To answer the question of why humans give name to God. It's to make god more relatable so that they can workshop it. And use devotion to come closer with it. Look up Bhakti Yoga.

How about just having one God vs many? If there is a single omnipotent being, why do various cultures have multiple gods? And why do different cultures’ gods tell them different things?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Post by mikrl »

layer8 wrote: post #321
afarah1 wrote: post #196

Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

Maybe the larger universe is identical to the contained universe, like a fractal. That would solve the question. ;)

Then we gotta find the black hole in our universe that contains that universe, and nuke it before they come to take our fluids!
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