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US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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Not challenging, but undoable. All parties capable of it will never do it. My (quite pessimistic) prediction for Israel is that the moment US is busy somewhere else, neighbors will attack en masse.

Neighbours have always attacked en masse: in 1948 they attacked en masse and lost and a Jewish state was established, in 1967 they attacked en masse and lost and Israel gained Judea and Samaria / West bank, in 1973 they attacked en masse and lost. Plus various combinations of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah attacking since, and losing.

Dear, past performance does not predict the future one. Israel hasn't done anything to build good will, on the opposite, they are increasingly negatively viewed, at least in Europe.

Some wars you lose.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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> rather than requiring Israel to cede territory. No stupid it requires Israel to return the invaded territory. Stop erasing Palestinian state.

USA and the UK were also on the wrong side of the South African apartheid struggle. It's disheartening how the most horrible people keep deciding the fates of millions throughout history.

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California and ICE actions in general are important to address, but I believe they were created as a distraction from the authoritarian provisions of the BBB tax bill.

So? They're still real actions. Doesn't matter why they're being done, they're still happening . And if Trump is doing this just as a distraction (I'm not convinced), then would he be willing to invade Greenland as a distraction too?

You are right, they are still happening, and Trump's minions are cranking up the temperature so they can justify more authoritarian actions.

They will use that. They'll use what's happening in LA to justify the need for more power vested in the president.

You're right, we do need to do something about ICEis, but it is urgent we do something about the authoritarian measures in BBB.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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Israel is a European colony, it has nothing to do with the Bible.

Colonies send resources back to their motherland. Israel has no motherland, and is majority Middle East-origin Jewish.

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>Trump and his buffoon class havent done anything major in their lives beyond Attention Capture. Tell that to California. Trump and his ilk are buffoons but they aren't simply putting on a show for the 'gram.

California and ICE actions in general are important to address, but I believe they were created as a distraction from the authoritarian provisions of the BBB tax bill.

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Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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Israel is a European colony, it has nothing to do with the Bible.

Colonies send resources back to their motherland. Israel has no motherland, and is majority Middle East-origin Jewish.

I think this is directionally and importantly true, but, for the record, the notion of a "settler colony" was invented to capture the distinction between colonies that exist to shuttle resources and colonies that exist to create new homeland.

(The Mizrahim fatally complicate any effort to sum Israel up as any kind of simplistic entity, and the term "European" to describe it is practically a slur.)

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